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spietka
spietka

Can someone please explain the difference between these two heights and weights? I'm not sure what Blake references. Height 6'6"; (Blake) 5’9": Weight 640 lbs; (Blake) 150 lbs. Thank you! 

hairlessrn
hairlessrn

I like the idea of a strong female character.  I love the idea of a strong female LEADING character.  A mythological female lead, heck DC's been doing it for years (WW).  But it does not take emasculating a strong male character to do so.  You have jumped on a bandwagon of a vocal minority that states equality for women requires that men step back and down.  Equality is supposed to be just that.  I see more in a push for equality in the All Father/All Mother conflict than this absurdity of SHE WHO IS WORTH business.  Can a woman lead as well or perhaps better than a man?  Depends on the woman or the man.  She will not lead better BECAUSE she is female, she will not lead worse BECAUSE she is female.  He will not be a better ruler BECAUSE he is male nor worse BECAUSE of his gender.  The potential for a statement of equality in the story line is great here.  But to make the male character unworthy for whatever cause to bring in a female in a role that is admittedly gender biased is absurd.  "I can do anything you can do better" is as demeaning for the maker of the statement as it is for the one directed at.  You are reversing the bias not eliminating it.

ErikMedzibrickyCZ
ErikMedzibrickyCZ

Perhaps you will not agree with me, but who cares? Thor is in my opinion the best character at a woman or a man!

Gigi3030
Gigi3030

I am soo disAppointed in marvel in removing thor and replacing him with a woman thor. I have no problem with a strong female character, i am one, but invent a new one. ThoR has been an icon forever and should stay forever!

Daddymanrw
Daddymanrw

Odin had a child, he named the beloved son Thor...NOPE, apparently THOR is in fact an essence imbued into a weapon, so that the one wielding said weapon becomes the Thor.  Guess we should now call the Odinson Don Blake.  I am  sorry Marvel is taking one of my favorite characters away to appeal to the 'Frozen' 'Once Upon a Time' fan base.  At 53, and an avid fan since my pre teens, I am obviously not the target demographic. more's the pity.  I applaud risk, risk moves things forward, but risk isn't risk if there is no potential loss.  Unfortunately I will be numbered amongst the loss.  If down the line this decision/fad is reversed, I'll be checking in.  :-(

empyrius
empyrius

If the lady is honorable enough to wield Mjolnir then everything will be just fine.

Mateo187
Mateo187

Marvel please Dont turn thor into a female. I have always liked thor and read hic comics. If Thor gets tUrned into a woman thor will saDly be for me a lost memory. Thor was made how he was from the start He is his own character the original please make a new Female character instead. I woUld not pay to watch avengers 3 or thor 3 if thor is a woman what i would like to see is a female hero a new character that has similar powers and abilities as thor noT a makeover of an original character its disrespectFul. For 40 plUs years thor has been what he is now its terrible if he is going to change his being. I hope In the future marvel doesnt decide to make dr. Banner a female scientist. Marvel if you want to make new characters that are females And of different ethnicities go right ahead but dont change characters that have Already been created aNd are well known and popular for who they are for a long time.

WolfieSmith
WolfieSmith

Here's a list of female goddesses from Norse mythology, Marvel should be able to find a new female super-heroine from this without turning Thor into a female.

Frigga - Goddess of marriage and motherhood.

Gefjun - Goddess of fertility and plough.

Hlín - Goddess of consolation and protection.

Iðunn - Goddess of youth.

Jörð - Goddess of the Earth. Mother of Þórr by Odin.

Lofn - Goddess of forbidden loves.

Nanna - Goddess of joy and peace, an Ásynja married with Baldr and mother to Forseti. Died because of Baldur's death.

Nerþus - A goddess mentioned by Tacitus. Her name is connected to that of Njörðr.

Nótt - Goddess of night, daughter of Narvi and mother of Auð, Jörð and Dagr by Naglfari, Annar and Delling, respectively.

Sága - An obscure goddess, possibly another name for Frigg.

Ran - Goddess of the sea.

Sif - Wife of Thor. Goddess of harvest.

Sjöfn - Goddess of love.

Skaði - Goddess of winter; Njörðr's wife.

Snotra - Goddess of prudence.

Sol - Goddess of Sun. Swallowed by Skoll.

Vár - Goddess of contract.

Vör - Goddess of wisdom.

Yggdrasil - Goddess of life. Tree of life. Connects the 9 worlds.

meadfam
meadfam

I like this new Thor. Marvel can now create new stories and new family tree. We can discover her birth right and origin. She could even fall pregnant to a human and give birth to a baby boy. Thor son of Thor. May we could see a romance between Thor and Beta Ray Bill. We could have new boyhood of Thor jnr tales and start the ball rolling all over again. Go Marvel, after all it was only a matter of time that you ran out of ideas for the current Thor. I'm just sorry I won't be around to see your future endeavors. 

WolfieSmith
WolfieSmith

I've just bought Marvel's The Art of Thor: The Dark World today, Wow! the artworkand photographs are fantastic. This convinces me even more that Marvel must keep Thor the male thunder god, and that it should undertake a project to recreate the stories from the ''Penguin Book of Norse Myths: Gods of the Vikings'' and ''The Prose Edda: Norse Mythology Penguin Classics'' with artists like Andy Park, Jackson Sze, Bryan Andrews, Jane Wu and Rick Newsome along with Wendy Partridge, Kramer Morgenthau, Charlie Wen et al. It would truly be a work of art and become a classic for posterity. All those who agree with me that this is a graphic novel project that Marvel Comics must undertake please sign the petition to keep Thor the Nordic god of thunder a man.  

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/petition-to-keep-thor-the-nordic-god-of-thunder-a/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=button

SethSteiner
SethSteiner

This is a great change. Making Thor female demonstrates how close minded many comic nerds still are, even though they consume a media that is famous for such great changes but they're not different as most people - changes are offensive, especially if it's skin color or gender. I will get this new series and hope for a great storyline around her. Maybe this is finally the end of white male domination.

WolfieSmith
WolfieSmith

The Penguin Book of Norse Myths: Gods of the Vikings contains 32 stories from the creation through to Ragnarok. It has a good introduction and notes, glossary and bibliography at the end of the book. Used in conjunction with The Prose Edda: Norse Mythology a Penguin Classics, should provide enough material for a whole series of Marvel graphic novels on the Asgardians. Imagine if Marvel created a series of graphic novels using the artists and images from the video game Thor: God of Thunder Xbox 360, recreating the Myths of these classics. I'm sure there would be a huge market for such a collection, it would become a graphic novel classic in its own right.

tanowa
tanowa

I can't believe Marvel is going to make Thor a girl. That is completely offensive. Worst idea ever out of Marvel. They are clearly buying into the Hollywood trend of emasculating the male ego for the sake of women's rights. I suggest that it is possible to support women without attacking men.

I am also repelled by this change because I am an Odinist and a Pagan. I have been able to put up with Marvel's mockery of my deities until now. But, it is no longer tolerable.  

Since they will likely not change their minds, I will be boycotting everything Marvel from now on. Thank you Marvel for being idiots.

steelgun56
steelgun56

thor is the coolest out of the avengers

Kratos224
Kratos224

@spietka (Blake) refers to Donald Blake his mortal alter ego when he is on earth

Daddymanrw
Daddymanrw

@empyrius Agreed, but I can't help but think whoever this honorable lady is, that she had a name before she picked up the hammer, Thor isn't a title, it's the Odinsons' name.  One can carry the shield, wear the star, and be called Captain America, but no one else can be Steve Rogers, an honor in of itself.  Marvel wants to shake things up with a new hammer wielder, that's fine, they've done it before, Be it Frigga, Sif, She-hulk, to Sue Storm, it's neither here nor there, but whoever it is, it's Not Thor.

Daddymanrw
Daddymanrw

@SethSteiner SSooo... if I just happen to Like Thor the way he is, You get to define me as close minded. Wow, that is insulting and dense, I'm a black man, and I wouldn't be enthusiastic about Thor turning black, do I get to feel that way? Storm, Warbird, Jean Grey, Wasp in her tenure as leader of Earth's Mightiest Heroes, are all favorites of mine, so though admittedly a nerd, how closed is my mind? Is the Steiner definition of open minded, someone who approves of any and Every change?  I don't want Thor to be female, that's ok, Marvel is taking a chance, and they will disappoint, and lose some readers, welcome to capitalism, nobody has to be insulted for having a preference on this trivia.  (I don't want Storm to be a guy, I AM close minded) oh well. 

WolfieSmith
WolfieSmith

@SethSteiner I'm all for gender and ethnic equality, I'm all for equality full stop as a socialist, yes a socialist. Thor is based upon a character in Norse mythology, there are other characters in the myths who they can develop. Let's see Marvel develop a female super heroin from one of the goddesses. Sif as the wife of Thor and as a peasant woman makes an ideal character for developing gender and class equality. Odin was the god of the noble and educated classes, Thor married a peasant and was the god of the common people, so Marvel should leave Thor to represent what he is. If you agree with promoting equality sign the petition to keep Thor the thunder god a man.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/petition-to-keep-thor-the-nordic-god-of-thunder-a/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=button

WolfieSmith
WolfieSmith

I would certainly want to add such a series it to my collection of books!

MegaAwesomeSuperGuy
MegaAwesomeSuperGuy

@tanowa I agree with you all the way, I Think we should go on Strike, Why couldnt they just bring back Valkyrie and with a Top Movie, Instead of destroying a beloved Hero

Thors_Mjolnir
Thors_Mjolnir

@tanowa I feel the exact same way, they have no regard for the old gods or those who still follow the Norse ways. Making a comic out of them is one thing but making Thor a girl? It is ridiculous!


Can you imagine making Jesus a woman without pissing people off?  

LoriCJ
LoriCJ

@tanowa I agree, I hate to tell them this, but they actually may lose a large part of their fanbase, Women.  Women love him. Everytime i go to a Thor movie its largly women who are there to see the male Thor.  They dont want to see another woman, they want Thor as he is.  Thor historacally is a Male.  I dont know why they are messing with this.

mr_seldomseen
mr_seldomseen member

@steelgun56


Without a doubt! Coolest powers, coolest supporting cast, coolest rogue gallery! 

spietka
spietka

@Kratos224 @spietka Thanks @Kratos224! But that does not explain how he weights so damn much on his home planet and so little on earth. I'd be interested to learn how and why he 'shrinks'. 

SethSteiner
SethSteiner

@WolfieSmith
Thor is based upon a character in Norse mythology, that is right.. and? What does that has to do with this change? It's like saying "Wagner, what did you do? You changed names and personalities of the characters, even the arcs are different from the Nibelungenlied!". This whole "Oh no, please don't change the character" is childish and has nothing to do with equality. Old Thor is unworthy, new Thor is worthy, there is nothing to complain about, it's just a new story and hopefully a good one.

WolfieSmith
WolfieSmith

Thor is the god of thunder, his hammer Mjölnir (crusher) causes the lightning that flashes across the sky. He is the son of Odin the All Father and Frigg. He has a day of the week named after him ''Thor's day'', his wife is Sif a fertility goddess and had a daughter, Thrúd. He has two sons, Magni and Modi by his mistress Jarnsaxa. He's the god of the household and the common people, his wife Sif was a peasant woman.

Thor is described as huge powerful bearded god with burning eyes who could defeat giants and trolls with his great strength. He's good-natured and always ready for adventure. He was the most loved and worshiped of the Norse gods, belonged to the common people, while Odin appealed to the learned and noble classes. Thor chases away the frosts and calls the gentle winds and warm spring rains to release the earth from its bondage of ice and snow.

Thor was a fierce enemy of the frost giants, the foes of the Norse gods. When people heard thunder and saw lightning in the sky, they knew that Thor was fighting these evil giants. When he threw his hammer Mjölnir it returned magically to his hand. Mjölnir was able to restoring life to the dead. He has his own rune symbol and wearing Thor's hammer around the neck is supposed to bring good luck and protect travellers.

Kratos224
Kratos224

@spietka @Kratos224 Dr. Donald Blake was created by Odin to be the host for his son Thor. He has since gained a life and sentience of his own, separate from Thor's. Therefore they are pretty much two separate entities, Thor's spirit resides within Blake's body andwhen there is danger he taps his cane on the ground and turns into Thor again. for further reference you can read Thor secret invasion #1-3 hope it helps

WolfieSmith
WolfieSmith

@SethSteiner If they want to change Captain America's gender or ethnicity that's fine his character was totally a figment of Marvel's creation. OK the Nibelungenlied is similar to the Völsunga saga and Prose Edda, and Tolkien took ideas from Norse mythology to create his fictional universe in The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings for Middle-Earth based upon Midgard from the Nine Realm's. If this has nothing to do with equality, then the argument that it's about ''skin colour or gender'' being offensive to and ''close minded'' '''white male domination'' is a red herring designed to justify a short cut to creating a female super-heroin or coloured character by Marvel. That's what is unworthy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tY4dQbcz2k

WolfieSmith
WolfieSmith

@SethSteiner I'm not alone in thinking that Thor as a character based upon Norse mythology is different to characters of Marvel's own creation. The Penguin Book of Norse Myths: Gods of the Vikings and The Prose Edda: Norse Mythology Penguin Classics, both show the deep cultural history of this and that is why what Marvel are proposing is so wrong. Yes the stories of the gods changed and there were inconsistencies as Viking culture was based upon an oral tradition rather than the written word like the Greek and Roman myths.

We could go into contradictions in Christian theology between the gospels adopted by the church or Rome or the Gnostic Gospels, Mary Magdaleneor the Gospel of Thomas. But the fact would remain that Yeshua (Jesus) was a man. Would Marvel contemplate a super-heroin called Jesus Christ, historically this would be wrong or Muhammad from the Muslim cosmologies? There are people who believe in Paganism and just as a female Jesus or Muhammad would offend Christians and Muslims the idea of a female Thor is equally wrong.

SethSteiner
SethSteiner

@WolfieSmith
I don't know what you're talking about. You balk at a change because of the mythological origins of the character, even though marvel already only uses the theme and names (and the germanic and norse mythology itself changed over the centuries). Of course it's close minded, to ignore all that and to bite as soon as the gender of the white male hero is touched (who stills exists, just not as the god).