Combine the X-Men and Ultimate Alliance series??
Posted: 05.02.2007 2:00pm
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Be warned: my idea is very long and complicated, but I think its a GREAT idea and I want to know what other people think about it.
Has anyone ever played Resident Evil 2 for PS1? How about Zelda: Oracle of Ages and Oracle of Seasons games for GameBoy Color? Both are by Capcom and are absolute classics. They have this interplayability feature that is rarely featured in games. Some games have similiar interplayability like the Pokemon series, but in these 3 games (both Resident Evil 2, and the two Oracles games) the feature is much more varied and complex.
Since Marvel has these two ongoing and exactly similiar series (both the Marvel Ultimate Alliance series and the XMen Legends series), I think it would be PERFECT if they implemented a similiar design to these two games.
For those unfamiliar with Resident Evil 2 and the Zelda Oracle games, let me explain the feature more thoroughly.
Resident Evil 2 is a two disc game for the first Playstation. It features two main playable characters: Leon Kennedy and Claire Redfield that stumble into each other in the zombie/monster ridden streets of Raccoon City and have to survive. At the end of the intro movie, both Leon and Claire get seperated by an explosive oil tanker and have to make there way to the police station. The first disc in the set is "LEON's" disc, and the second disc in the set is "CLAIRE's" disc. You can decide which character you would like to start out with: if you want to start out with Leon use his disc, if you want to use Claire's disc use her disc.
This is where it gets complicated and confusing, but also very cool. Essentially there are two big stories, with 4 different variations of the game. There are two big stories. One story has Leon's half of the story and Claire's half of the story. The other story is a different variation of Leon's half of the story and Claire's half of the story. It depends on who you pick first. Here's an example: If you start out with Leon's game, you go through the game. You meet up with Claire again, but both Leon and Claire seperate to find other survivors. Finally you completely beat the game with Leon.
With me so far? Once you beat Leon's game, the game is not over yet. This is only the first half of the story and is referred to as "Leon's "A" Game. Remember Claire got seperated from Leon in the beginning? Well once you beat Leon's 'A' game, you get to see what Claire went through and you start from the begining of the story, but on the other side of the burning oil tanker. This is referred to as "Claire's 'B' Game". Much more is revealed in the B Game, and it even has an extended ending sequence. Also, things that you did in Leon's 'A' game effect certain things that go on in Claire's 'B' game. For example, when Leon puts out a fire in the police station in the 'A' game, the fire will no longer be there in Claire's B game. Once you beat Claire's B game, you have beat the game.....
....But its still not over!!! Remember I said there are 2 stories? That was just the first one. Well instead of starting out with Leon, you can pop in Claire's disc anytime and begin fresh on Claire's A game. Once you beat Claire's A game, you play and beat Leon's B game. Both Leons "A" game and Claire's "A" game are quite similiar, but have many huge differences. Same with the "B" games.
Like I said.... VERY cool feature. This is one of the reasons why RE2 is a classic, and I am suprised that there are few games that have emulated this.
Both Zelda: Oracle of Ages and Zelda Oracle of Seasons for Game Boy Color have an interplayability feature, but it is way different than Resident Evil 2's. First off, Resident Evil 2 is one game, while Ages and Seasons are two seperate games. In Ages, Link must navigate through time to solve puzzles and win the day. In Seasons, Link must use magic to change the seasons (Winter, Fall, Summer, Spring) to solve puzzles and save the day.
The interplayability feature is less complicated than RE2, but still cool. Basically once you beat one game, you can continue the adventure in the other game through passwords. Once you beat both games, you unlock the final path to the big boss of both games who is really behind all the trouble. You have to beat both games to get to this final connecting scenario.
I think the Ultimate Alliance and X-Men Legends series would be perfect to have some type of interplayability feature. They could release them as seperate games like the Oracle series, or a two disc set like RE2. Maybe both games could be titled Ultimate Alliance 2. One game would be Ultimate Alliance: Marvel Legends, and the other would be Ultimate Alliance: X-Men Legends? I assume the storyline would be some epic threat to the universe as usual. X-Men Legends of course would feature a crapload of characters from the X Universe (possibly both heroes and villians). You would expect Cyclops, Wolverine, Jean Grey, Iceman, and if villians are included Magneto, Juggernaut, and the rest of them. Ultimate Alliance would feature the usual cast of non-X-Men Marvel characters like Cap, Spidey, Iron Man, Hulk, Surfer, the Fantastic Four and others that were primarily featured in the first MUA game (and again maybe with some villians).
The possibilities are endless as far as what they could do with an interplayability feature. Maybe the X-Men are battling some epic threat, but the Avengers, Fantastic Four and others are busy with a threat somewhere else. Of course at one point you make ALL X-Men and Marvel heroes unlockable in both games, but only after the player beats one or two games. For instance, if you go through and beat the Ultimate Alliance game, and load the data on the X-Men Legends game, the player is now able to play as both X-Men and Marvel heroes throughout the X-Men game. Of course, once a player beats both games, there is some massive threat that all Marvel heroes and X-Men must unite to defeat. Or like the Oracles games, you have X-Men battle through a whole game seperately, you have the Marvel heroes battle through a whole game seperately, and than you have the uniting boss quest at the end, and after you beat both games can you play Marvel heroes in X-Men Legends and vice versa.
Or you can have different variations of both games like Resident Evil 2's A games and B games. Some missions you could only play on X-men Legends, and other missions you can only play in the Marvel heroes game. These "exclusive" missions would make up a greater part of the game. For instance, only the Marvel heroes travel to the Negative Zone in their game, and only the X-Men travel to Muir Island in their game. But there would also be missions in which both games shared missions and with slight variations. For example, if you were playing Marvel heroes "A" game, and X-Men Legends "A" game, you see both teams visit the Savage Land, however there would be significant differences like level layout, items, secret areas, enemies, story, and also instead of Sauron being behind the trouble in the X-Men version, its Mandarin in the Marvel heroes game. Maybe you would have some levels like that shared in the A games of each version and the B games of each version. Also you could have the player effecting certain things for the later scenario, just like Resident Evil 2. This would also be similiar to the secondary missions in Ultimate Alliance, that have an after effect on the world (but these missions only effected that ending movie sequence). For instance, you would have a few of those "shared" mission levels like I mentioned before. Say you started out with the X-Men in their A Game and you go to Wakanda on a mission. And there is a secondary optional mission of saving a villager that only the X-men can do in there A game, and you save the villager. Later, in the Marvel heroes 'B' game, the Marvel heroes also have to go to Wakanda for a different reason and because the villager is saved, he is able to open a secret area for the Marvel heroes with bonus Danger Room/Simulator discs and items.
I know my idea was very long, complicated, and detailed but what do you guys think?
IronMan296 sidekick Joined: 08.25.2006 Posts: 142
Posted: 05.02.2007 2:26pm
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I forgot to mention this in my idea, hypothetically once you have all unlockable characters finally, a host of new team combinations would be available. For example, once you unlock Beast in the Marvel heroes game, he would be part of the Avengers team. Wolverine would be part of the New Avengers and the New Fantastic Four. If villians were featured in the game, Quiksilver and Scarlet Witch could be part of both the Avengers and the Brotherhood of Evil. Storm (hypothetically from X-Men Legends) and Black Panther (hypothetically from Marvel heroes game) would be able to form a few teams once they are unlocked including another version of New Fantastic Four. Also Double Date (Panther, Storm, Cyclops, Jean?) or (Panther, Storm Reed, Sue from MUA) or (Panther, Storm, Gambit, Rogue?). Speaking of Double Date there are quite a few combonations (Rogue, Gambit, Reed, Sue?).
punhulk acolyte Joined: 04.12.2007 Posts: 71
Posted: 05.02.2007 3:34pm
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but see in technicality that is what MUA is all the universe coming together i think the only thing they should do is add more xmen and more general characters to the roster and have more bosses to fight from the xmen ie apocolypse, omega red, maybe a mission against styrker
as for brother hood mutants keep them as playable characters on the roster
so i think that is what they should focus on
have a big roster
ive posted before about a roster 0f 42
maybe even 50 characters playable roster would be awesome and revamp the game with a massive mission and level base so it does not seem like there are to many characters and you cant get to them all you know
with the next gen systems this can be done
but that is what i think
DrewP_85 novice Joined: 08.25.2006 Posts: 4
Posted: 05.03.2007 5:52pm
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What might be cool is to have a storyline where the X-Men do something that the world sees as a threat and mutants have to go underground and defend themselves (this would justify the X-Men and The Brotherhood teaming up again) then the Ultimate Alliance team needs to apprehend the mutants because there are warrants for their arrests. Then the player could have the option of playing as a mutant or as a Ultimate Alliance team member.
There are only two things that would make this hard to do, the non-mutant heroes are totally cool with the x-men, so it would have to be something really bad, or at least something that seemed really bad when people didn't get the whole story. So this game would require a good story line to avoid seeming stupid and lame. The other hard part would be deciding which team to put Wolverine on. My knee jerk reaction is to put him on the mutant's team, but that may be because I'm more of a fan of the X-Men than the Avengers, some people may want him on the Ultimate Alliance side. However, in X-Men Legends II, Wolverine and Sabretooth were on the same team (on computer version) and the had all the same moves and powers. However, Wolverine himself would probably side with the mutants in a situation like this.
What would be really cool about having a game like this is that you can incorporate all of the hero fighting hero angst of civil war into the story line and dialog. Plus you could also have non-mutants aiding the mutants (like Black Panther backing up Storm) or mutants who betray their kind and side with the Ultimate Alliance.
As far as characters are concerned. The peons that you run into on your way to the bosses could be SHIELD agents against the mutants, and random Genoshan mutates against the Ultimate Alliance. This would work out really well in the separate story-lines idea too, just without a common foe for both teams...Until maybe the end when they find out who was really behind it, or whatever. There could even be two different bad guys at the end of the game, one for the Mutants and one for the Alliance. But anyway, I'm just rambling on now so I'm gonna stop.
