Who Is The Iron Patriot?

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kreemarvel
kreemarvel

[quote@MONDO1231 The Iron Patriot is Norman Osbourne :venom:[/quote] [color=seagreen] No. It was revealed long ago it is Norman Osborne.I am not even aware who this "Norman Osbourne" is...And welcome to the boards, BTW.[/color]

MONDO1231
MONDO1231

The Iron Patriot is Norman Osbourne :venom:

superboyjared
superboyjared

if you look at the new avengers dark reign tie in, when they find out one of the skrulls is still in shield, and jessica drew hoins up with em, and cage and jones are looking for the baby. It shows osborn asking cage "i will help you find your baby, if u work for me" could that be saying that the patriot could be luke cage? just wondering. totally agree with it being cage

magnusj
magnusj

I hate to say it, but all Rhodes lead to Luke Cage, in my opinion. Although, with Marvel sometimes going the obscure=shocking route (ie: Darkhawk as the New Kid on the Cosmic Block), the Iron Patriot could be Captain Ultra...

kunglu
kunglu member

It could be the Rhodes clone,but what about Luke Cage? He did make a deal with Oborne that he would do ANYTHING to get his daughter back! He was an Avenger and if the suit enhances his strength (purely speculation here) he'd be an awesome candidate. Think of it, would he hunt down his old teammates for the help of Osborne? And with his wife nagging him I'm sure he would! ha ha ha

Hunter_McFalls
Hunter_McFalls member

What if he is the original Human Torch?Or maybe an advanced LMD?

Nova1
Nova1

[quote@Jc211 It could be a clone of Rhodes too.[/quote] Yeah, that is still uncertain. It could just be a clone, but I wonder if it is just a "shell"...

Ghostown
Ghostown

This might sound out there, but who would expect it? I'm calling Thor on this one. Visiting Cap's grave, the lighting in the background of the promo art? He's clearly "absent" from the team. Maybe he's just using it as a disguise. Who would suspect since he and Stark don't get along these days. Or do they? If I've learned anything about them it's Marvel loves to throw curve balls.

Jc211
Jc211

[quote:f3ed3ab17a="Nova#1"]If you haven't read War Machine #1 and don't want it to get spoiled, then stop reading now.Those who don't care cause you ain't getting it or don't mind having things spoiled...with the end of WM #1 it is looking like Iron Patriot could be James Rhodes. But not as we know him.Looks like a James Rhodes 2.0, after the bombing James was involved in, the condition he was left in was just meant to be temporary while some people worked on a more "human" look.Then at the end of the issue, Norman and some of his men had broken into the facility where James was to get his "upgrade" and looks like they are either going to tamper with this 2.0 or take the body all together.[/quote] It could be a clone of Rhodes too.

Zenmaster_MooMoo
Zenmaster_MooMoo

my vote is for pepper potts. she's got the thingy in her chest now, and ya know that she hates norman because of the stuff tony's going through. my money is on pepper. :)

Nova1
Nova1

If you haven't read War Machine #1 and don't want it to get spoiled, then stop reading now.Those who don't care cause you ain't getting it or don't mind having things spoiled...with the end of WM #1 it is looking like Iron Patriot could be James Rhodes. But not as we know him.Looks like a James Rhodes 2.0, after the bombing James was involved in, the condition he was left in was just meant to be temporary while some people worked on a more "human" look.Then at the end of the issue, Norman and some of his men had broken into the facility where James was to get his "upgrade" and looks like they are either going to tamper with this 2.0 or take the body all together.

Gainesy
Gainesy

I'm gonna say that the Iron Patriot is Hank Pym based solely on the fact that at the Wasp's funeral, he blamed Stark for everything and based on that, I think he'd do anything to get back at him.

Rgambit1964
Rgambit1964

And yes, the Sharon Carter stuff was meant in jest, but these days, who knows? :gambit:

Rgambit1964
Rgambit1964

While many of these guesses are valid for the most part, the notion that it can't be James Buchanan isn't really at all out of the question. Many say "But he's Captain America now!", but as I have said elsewhere, when the new Cap movie comes out (or just before), there is no way Marvel will just throw out all of the Steve Rogers (not Rodgers!) continuity! To do so would be too wasteful & confusing to those with only a passing familiarity or none at all of the character. Movies need to be free of too much "baggage" to appeal to a wider audience & trying to explain how Buchanan was first Bucky, then the Winter Soldier & then took up the mantle of Cap after Steve died is way too convoluted for the average non-comic book reader! My guess is that if it isn't Buchanan yet, it will be after Steve comes back in some way. The Winter Soldier is no more, but they won't kill him off after bringing him back, especially after so much of a big deal was made about him being brought back in the first place! And with the bionic enhancements, it's not like he isn't familiar with hi-tech armor & weaponry & he is nothing if not a patriot! But what the heck do I know? It could very well turn out to be the rapidly matured unborn son of Steve & Sharon Carter or Sharon Carter herself! But my money is still on it eventually being Ol' "Bucky" himself. :gambit:

rianriot
rianriot

I think that the iron patriot will be Norman Osborne. I know a few people have discounted this but ''The Greatest Hero In The Marvel Universe'' would relate to osborne after Secret Invasion with the way he was portrayed on T.V. while liberating Washington D.C. in Thunderbolts. They even called him a ''Patriot'' And Osborne would love to captilise on Stark leaving the battle in Secret Invasion #7. Using similar armour while adding patriot to the name would really rub salt in the wound, as alot of people still blame stark for steve rogers' death.

AFristik
AFristik

This Iron Patriot no matter who he or possibly she is in my mind. To be truthful I doubt it is Rhodes because he has donned the War Machine armor once again. Tony Stark? hmmmmm a little too obvious but it could be him. Steve Rodgers????? Now that is a interesting thought because as we all know the Captain America Movie is coming down the road, and it would be understandable that he wears the armor because he may no longer have the Super Solider formula we don't know that for sure. Then again who says this newbie is going to be a hero at all with talk of The Iron Patriot being mixed with The Dark Avengers he/she could be evil. Only time will tell I will keep an open mind. Never the less I am more then excited to see who is behind the armor.

ebellavita77
ebellavita77

I think that Secret Invasion leads into this Dark Reign event and some of these Skrulls sent to the Savage Land the ones that actually believe they were heroes become the Dark Avengers. If Hawkeye, Wolverine and Spider-Man leave the New Avengers then what is left of them. They must be these Skrulls, as for the Iron Patriot, I don't know who he is but he is definetly not Tony Stark or Rhodes. I don't think he is Steve Rogers Marvel wouldn't bring him back just yet unless it is like the Captain Marvel series where he isn't really Steve Rogers but a Skrull who thinks he is. I like the Norman Osborn idea, but I don't see how it would fit in just yet. Norman Osborn is going to have a lot to do in this Dark Reign series I predict though. I really like the elevation of his character.

Nova1
Nova1

Those who are interested in Dark Reign and Dark Avengers....

Nova1
Nova1

Whoever this guy is, I think that it would be a character that Tony would see as Patriotic. I do not think it is Steve (or a clone), Bucky since he is Captain America. I think that this has everything to do with Tony Stark.

Hulkster124
Hulkster124

I think it could be Steve Rogers because of the whole clone possibility that was mentioned before.I also think it could be Tony Stark himself. I think he is starting to think he is on the wrong side.It could also be Bucky or Patriot but I doubt it.You guys are going to think I am way out there on this one but I also think it could possibly be either, Sentry, Hawkeye, Wolverine, or Spider-Man. Is don't know why yet, but whoever it is I think it is somebody who is well known.The skrull thing could work because what better for shield to fluster theirenemies than by making people think Cap is still alive by using a skrull to impersonate him. They could go a lot of different ways with that storyline. I don't think Steve is the most likely candidate because why would he all of a sudden come working for Iron Man and shield after fighting so hard against Iron Man's forces before. IT could be Cap under some sort of mind control. Or a skrull could have infiltrated shield as steve rogerswithout Tony Stark knowing it and then got this new armor because the skrull is making stark think that cap is still alive and on his side now, and right when everybody's guard is down he takes out stark or something crazy like that. I do think that one other interesting possibility is that Tony Stark gave whoever this Iron Patriot is, this armor, as a representation of what Tony wants this new system of Super Heroes to Stand For. It could almost be what "he thinks" America she represent. Which goes against what Cap stood for to begin with. So if the comic goes this way, then Stark will pick someone who "he thinks" deserves the honor of wearing what is essentially the American Iron Man Armor. Look at the armor, anyone can see it is a combination of Iron Man Armor with Cap's Costume design. But whoever this Iron Patriot is he or she is going to be a central character to the upcoming story arch I think.there is my two cents. lol

tubaisland06
tubaisland06

What about USAgent? Maybe Stark brought him back from Canada. That could be a match. Of course I'd rather it be someone who isn't registered and be on the side of the rogue avengers but it wouldn't be the worst match-up in the world. Although, there is another possibility. I don't think anyone's come up with the idea of there being a woman inside the suit. just cause the iron ain't curvy doesn't mean there isn't a chick inside. as long as it isn't Maria Hill, I think i'd have to vomit. Then there's always that chance that it's a new character altogether, though I think it'd be cooler if it was an already well known character changing roles. SI #8 cant get here fast enough.

motleykr3w
motleykr3w

just an idea but this could be a skrulll that's on the heros side and what wouldn't be a bigger twist then a skull on our side that took the image and powers of the big 3, Iron-man , Thor, and cap. that would be one unstoppable force agianst the skrull, but the only problem with my idea is how would we kill it after it kills the skrulls.

Nova1
Nova1

[quote@skaarson now theres 3 of these pages[/quote] :lol:

skaarson
skaarson

now theres 3 of these pages

tonystark777
tonystark777

:thor: OMG THis ironman looks rad....could it be the punisher....i mean in war journal he covered for captain america when he died in civil war :

Nova1
Nova1

No, it is not going to be Steve Rogers. JQ has said himself that it will be in the Captain America comic that Steve will come back. I think he also mentioned that if he were to choose a writer to do it, it would be the man that killed Steve, Brubaker.

specialed08825
specialed08825

Henry Pym was a skrull, and in the aftermath of Cap's death when wolverine went in to see his body and was stopped by Iron man. wolverine makes a comment about how the body was small. what if Pym switched out the body when Cap died and switched it with out anyone knowing and the iron patriot is really Steve Rogers.

cleaver
cleaver

It is Steve Rodgers. Henry Pym cloned Steve and Stark built armor for him.The clone was killed istead of Rodgers.

trybalwings
trybalwings

I will WAY out on a pretty long limb here.... FRANK CASTLE Still distraught over the death of Captain America and under the employ of Tony Stark as director of SHIELD through a deal brokered with Steve Rogers before his untimely death, with full access to Stark Tech and his affinity for gadgets and advanced weaponry...What do you think?

Nova1
Nova1

[quote@johnnysword It's obviously Steve Rogers who was brought back to life by Mephisto and starring in a new series written by Jeph Lobe, in an attempt to make all Marvel fans puke their guts out.[/quote] I am not sure whether to laugh or cry...:lol:

GundamAce
GundamAce

marvel is just pulling stuff out their butt at this point :roll:

johnnysword
johnnysword

It's not going to be any character who just recently got a new series or who is just coming back into the limelight. (ie: no Rhodes, Stark, Bucky, Nick Fury or Flash Thompson)It's obviously Steve Rogers who was brought back to life by Mephisto and starring in a new series written by Jeph Lobe, in an attempt to make all Marvel fans puke their guts out.

Nova1
Nova1

[quote@Colenuck Anyone ever think that it might be Flash Thompson? after reading ASM 374, they sure did make him out to be a hero! and why do a whole issue on him? and that guy asked alot of questions, like " you realize you gave up your legs for that mans life" and he did use an artificial means to save the guy.Maybe im reading into it too much?[/quote] Would be interesting. But if this were to happen there would need to be a bit more of a set-up then just one issue.

terrryisj
terrryisj

Since he has resurfaced do to SI, maybe its Nick Fury. With tony being the Director of SHIELD maybe Fury was able to hack into shield and take one of the suits for his own.

Colenuck26
Colenuck26

Anyone ever think that it might be Flash Thompson? after reading ASM 374, they sure did make him out to be a hero! and why do a whole issue on him? and that guy asked alot of questions, like " you realize you gave up your legs for that mans life" and he did use an artificial means to save the guy.Maybe im reading into it too much?

Nova1
Nova1

Apart from War Machine, I don't remember Tony giving out Iron Man-like armors to everyone.

thause77
thause77

maybe its patriot, in an iron man suit.stark gives those things out like candy on halloween these days.its better than charelston chew, thats for sure.

gunga96
gunga96

I thought that 2, but I hope it's a Dark Avenger. It can't be Rhodey, it can't be Stark, there has to be a character that could be a IRON PATRIOT..... Cap in the armor? I doubt it. Bucky? No. He's Captain America, not the Iron Patriot.... but Cap does bring up another character..... PATRIOT from the Young Avengers. [u] PATRIOT[/u] , IRON [u] PATRIOT[/u] !!!! Catching on here????

SPIDEYISMYCLONE
SPIDEYISMYCLONE

[quote@Malstorm Remember the What if..? Civil War where it had a couple stories...one where Ironman died...well that armor kinda reminds me of the suit he made for Cap that he wore there..[/quote] That is exactly what I thought of when I saw this image. The first thing that came to mind when I saw this is that maybe it's Cap. I am not necessarily saying that it is a good idea, but I wouldn't rule it out.

sxetim
sxetim

I have a feeling that it is Tony Stark..maybe he realizes how wrong he was and to reconcile his guilt he dawns a new identity IRON PATRIOT! It could be wishful thinking though.. lol

nmolz58
nmolz58

its just bucky w/ an iron man suit.

johnnysword
johnnysword

There's no way Iron Patriot is War Machine. They're just about to start a War Machine solo series, why would they change the name of a title character right before he starts his own series? That would be suicide.But this will for sure have something to do with Dark Reign.

Derek_Metaltron
Derek_Metaltron

Whoever he is, he's sure to be the puppet of Director Osborn. (If what I expect happens in Dark Reign is true.)I'd expect our first appearance of this new character will be in Invinsible Iron Man #8, anyway.

hafriko
hafriko

I like the idea of Rhodes being in the suit. No offense to any fans, but he just never struck me as a big solo character as War Machine. But I also agree with the sentiment that Iron Patriot could step on a few toes depending on where he pops up. Regardless, I love the idea! :dead:

Malstorm
Malstorm

Remember the What if..? Civil War where it had a couple stories...one where Ironman died...well that armor kinda reminds me of the suit he made for Cap that he wore there..

swordofsutekh
swordofsutekh

Unless Captain America or Iron Man dies before the end of Secret Invasion, the Iron Patriot is going to seriously be stepping on some toes.I hope this isn't a case of a new character being created for the cheap sale of a couple of comics.