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I Am A New Avenger

NEW AVENGERS returns in June

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Don't miss the brand new NEW AVENGERS #1, from the superstar creative team of Brian Michael Bendis and Stuart Immonen, this June!

 

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      Icon4us
      Icon4us

      This is like Luke's team! They are all good friends of his. Make it complete with Ironfist! Spidey could step up in as the leading brain of the team... he is a scientist. Dr Voodoo can make up the lack of brain power with some magic often equated as similar to science.

      marvelnerdking
      marvelnerdking

      [quote@nt1ez8 When I first saw this I was a little iffy, but not so much anymore... After everything done with Luke Cage on New Avengers I feel like he deserves to stay an avenger....and I have my fingers crossed for Iron Fist back on the roster[/quote] :storm: YEAH LUKE CAGE is my favorite so he should be leader and i thank micheal bendis for making luke cage more now and everyone liking Luke Cage. Iron Fist is tight

      bds197485
      bds197485

      Has anyone seen the cover for NA #1? The Thing is a New Avenger. Cool.

      bds197485
      bds197485

      [quote@Specterofthepast How on earth is Echo boring? I personally think she should have stayed Ronin.[/quote] I didn't think she was boring. Brian Bendis kind of hinted that he didn't like her character so much. I'd like her to be a part of the Avengers as I'd have any hero there.

      Specterofthepast
      Specterofthepast

      How on earth is Echo boring? I personally think she should have stayed Ronin.

      bds197485
      bds197485

      Echo needs to be on some sort of team somewhere. I do hate the idea that certain persons like Echo and Wonderman can't be included in any comic. Just because writers thought they were boring doesn't mean that they should be ignored.

      Specterofthepast
      Specterofthepast

      I definately like to see Iron Fist and Doctor Voo Doo in the Avengers. What about Echo?

      bds197485
      bds197485

      [quote@professorhulk bumphttp://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=25471Iron fist + doctor voodoo definently joins!man icnt wait 4 this book![/quote] Most definately bump. I have no idea what was on my mind when I wrote tha tof the HT. I agree with you about Iron Fist and Doctor Voodoo does sound cool. I hope Spiderman and Luke Cage stays on the team.

      bds197485
      bds197485

      I'd even take the Human Torch as a NA as long as the story's good.

      bds197485
      bds197485

      [quote@wadew1 The Thing....eh.Surprised it didn't happen sooner.IRON FIST is a must for New Avengers.[/quote] I agree, along with Spidey, Wolverine, and Luke Cage.

      Winter_So1dier
      Winter_So1dier

      bendis writing a heroes for hire book wouldnt make any sense since because of the SHRA, all heroes are pretty much for hire. though, i agree with you that it shouldnt be called new avengers. theres plenty of titles that will sell well without the avengers name on it that has a street feel. something like Marvel Knights, Marvel Urban Knights, New Marvel Knights etc...

      DrPym
      DrPym

      I have to agree with the art,i would give my left arm for Coipel to draw an Avengers book.#I would be happy with Bru too,i just wont Bendis to give other a chance,he should do a Heroes for Hire book or Luke Cage Ongoing.

      BlackSamurai
      BlackSamurai

      Sort addresses the related thoughts of bcook & alex01:The entire idea behind the 50 States Initiative places The Avengers as the official team of NY while trying to assign all the others they did to the other states. Essentially that was usurped by the Dark Avengers, but that is just what we call them/the book title, it is still from Tony to Norman, The Avengers guarding NY. Switching this to New Avengers still makes it the Avengers, but I'd say the regular A are more suited to defending an entire city with high-flying, energy-wielding, heavy hitters than the relatively street-level NA.The reason why these teams wouldn't better be served being named the Defenders, New Warriors, etc. is that those titles start to become divorced from the Avengers once they take those names officially in their titles. It's even a delicate thing to market on the name of the Avengers alone, much less separating the concept of being an Avenger from newbies and having them carry a title. If New Avengers were to become, for example, The Defenders, they would then need to turn to focusing on the development of Wolverine and/or Spider-Man, and maybe Cage, to keep their draw; whereas, being named Avengers can just have such people kicking butt alongside others and merely be there for the spectacle. Think about it this way, no matter how long NA lives on, it will never outshine a roster with a Captain America, Thor, Iron Man or Hawkeye who have defined themselves as Avengers mainly, while Cage is a Hero For Hire, Wolverine is an X-Man, and Thing is a Fantastic Four member, especially in the eyes of the longer-stayed generation of readers, so you are not reading an Avengers book anymore if it is not called that, unless there are quintessential Avengers within the pages. Even Avengers: The Initiative (and I guess eventually 'Academy) loses authenticity without a defined Avenger around to ground it, so at the loss of Pym the book was more just a book about a training camp for heroes in the MU than it ever would be an Avengers book, whereas now, it would supposedly have Steve Rogers amongst them to be a true Avengers training camp. Just think about The Order series. Going with the logic that any graduated Initiative team was essentially an Avengers team, they had little staying power as a brand without a breakout star (or an Avenger-proper to make it feel like an Avengers book) because names help sell books. 50 percent of sales of a book can be attributed to naming something Avengers or X-Men, but only if one can open the pages and said title feels like Avengers or X-Men. That's part of why even something like X-Force would falter if it didn't have a certain formula of characters, and Peter Milligan's version of X-Force would've never been X-Force in the minds of readers. It had it's own appeal, but it would be remembered as X-Statix in the long run since X-Force was defined by wetwork, under Cable, including the likes Cannon Ball, Wolfsbane, Domino and Thunderbird with a solid connection to the X-Men - that connection being there now that Wolverine and Cyclops have their stamp on it.It's all a stigma thing affecting titles positively or negatively, if Champions and Defenders weren't made out to be second rate Avengers teams, they would be another strong name to rally behind. The only Defenders team that wouldn't feel like a cut-rate Avengers is one that groups Hulk, Strange, Surfer and Namor (with Valkyrie and/or Hellcat being able to sub in the absence of one of these big four). Heck, with the excitement behind Hulk right now (with Paks influence being felt in the quality of the big direction behind it all now), the recent waves Namor has made, and the revitalization of Marvel Cosmic, I think it is a ripe enough time to get at least Hulk, Namor and Silver Surfer together in that title to make it a big name once and for all. The trick would be to stay away from what gave the book a weird feel, always seeming to be wrapped up in Dormammu and odd mystical realms instead of outright serious high-octane action. I know Strange is more one of the Defenders-trinity than Namor is, but his presence almost always guides their stories, so I'd rather see Valkyrie there (or let Voodoo find a home amongst them, but not dictate their path), OR with Strange now in the lesser powered state and not being bound to protecting Earth from mystic realms, he may finally fit in without commanding the direction.

      Mummra_t_e_l
      Mummra_t_e_l

      [quote@DrPym Im not sure if there should be another New Avengers team.Isnt Secret Avengers and Avengers enough.and if Bendis has to write New avengers then give Avengers to Dan Slott or Jim McCann.[/quote] No way Spin!!The only guy I'd like to be writing the main Avengers book other than Bendis is Bru!!But tbh, Im more worried about the art than the writing at the moment!! I cannot stand JR Jr, find Stuart Immonem to be dull and lifeless, and Im pretty much a l'il bored of Deodato Jr, although I generally like him.Why not bring in the likes of Stefano Casselli or Leinil Yu?! Or perhaps Steve Epting or David Aja?? Travel Foreman, Rafa Sandoval or indeed, Olivier Coipel??

      DrPym
      DrPym

      Im not sure if there should be another New Avengers team.Isnt Secret Avengers and Avengers enough.and if Bendis has to write New avengers then give Avengers to Dan Slott or Jim McCann.

      bcook
      bcook

      I agree we need more books to cover the large cast of Marvel heroes but they should be sprad across other Avengers related titles. For example the AVengers: Initiative cast could become New Warriors (Start from Issue 112 maybe) With Justice and Night Trasher and maybe they could bring Firestar back. The Heroes for hire could be restarted with Danny Rand and other street level guys like the White Tiger. Maybe a new Defenders for fighting mystical enemies (Led by docs Strange or Voodoo). Heck why not bring back the Champions for the West coast. My point is there are alot of marvel teams that have been underused why not use them instead of 4 Avengers titles. As far as I can tell the Heroic age is harkening back to the 70's with all these bright heroes before Frank Miller came along and made everything gritty and Noir.That being said, another GLA/GLX/GLI miniseries needs to exist.

      alex01
      alex01

      What if.... the new avengers are part of a new 50 states initiative. I mean, all the characters (except logan) live in NY, so maybe they are the New York team... and the Avengers title, are in charge of global threats.

      professorhulk
      professorhulk

      I just had a total brainstorm!!!!!What if the new new avengers roster is made up of luke caages friends who halped him escape H.A.M.M.E.R !!!So u got luke, jewl, spidey, wolvie, thing and then iron fist, misty knight, hellcat, and maby even son of satan, and either dr voodoo/strange!!! maby even echo will rejoin!!! what do u think?eDIT: helcat is going to be appearing in Heralds which means son of satan probably wont make an appearence.

      RLAAMJR.
      RLAAMJR.

      i don't like the roster. hopefully, Storm will not be part of it.

      CapLivesOn
      CapLivesOn

      So psyched! It's Clobberin' Time!

      Windblast
      Windblast

      [quote@silentprocess With the Black Panther book getting cancelled it's definitely possible that the Black Panther in some form will be appearing in an Avengers book.[/quote] Where'd you hear about that?

      GundamAce
      GundamAce

      freak ya the thing on the avengers is the best i've heard so far!

      Winter_So1dier
      Winter_So1dier

      wow this is an awesome addition i didnt see coming. totally out of left field but i love it. the dynamic of this character will make this group a lot better i think.loving how this team is a PURE street level level so far... now how about you reveal iron fist now. plz...

      Nova1
      Nova1

      I'm surprised they actually revealed a new member of the team. Thought that the new ones might've been revealed later on or once the Finale was released.

      wadew1
      wadew1 member

      The Thing....eh.Surprised it didn't happen sooner.IRON FIST is a must for New Avengers.

      weshowyou
      weshowyou

      The Thing? This just might get interesting.

      boscoe
      boscoe

      Someone brought up leadership, assuming no else is announced that would be a good leader, and Cage won't lead both the Thunderbolts & NA, I think Steve Rogers should be the leader, since Bucky will stay Captain America.

      ebellavita77
      ebellavita77

      I don't see Hickman giving up Benn. I'm telling you guys T'Challa will be on the Secret Avengers. I had no news the Black Panther was getting cancelled? Figured it would just pick after Doomwar.

      silentprocess
      silentprocess

      That's another possibility I hadn't thought of.. But I like.

      bds197485
      bds197485

      The Thing can become an Avenger on one of the teams while Black Panther replaces him on the Fantasic Four.

      silentprocess
      silentprocess

      With the Black Panther book getting cancelled it's definitely possible that the Black Panther in some form will be appearing in an Avengers book.

      Windblast
      Windblast

      Ok, so I'm starting to see a pattern here; all off these people serve what some people like to call "double duty". This makes me think this team is going to be A LOT more liberal than the others.

      ebellavita77
      ebellavita77

      I would agree with you on that intially, but if you follow the Ms. Marvel that Reed has written, she is definitely more confident and "serious" then she was when the series started. Even the way Bendis has written her, she was the field leader of the Mighty Avengers, she's only with the New Avengers because she has no place left to go, she definitely belongs among the Avengers proper. As for Blue Marvel, I would agree a place on the Secret Avengers is where he would fit best initially, but I could see Bendis using him more then Brubaker. He tends to throw in a wild card like that. Oh and as for the 4th book, its definitely Avengers Academy and will be a continuation of the Initiative series, so you'll still get to see all the New Warriors and Intitiative characters from before.

      ConCarne
      ConCarne

      Who on the NA team so far isn't on another team? Ben Grimm is also on the FF, Luke Cage is also on Thunderbolts, Spiderman and Wolverine are having their own team up book starting soon... I think that leaves Jessica Jones as being the only person on this team that isn't on another team. I'm curious who will be the leader of them team, I wouldn't want Cage to lead it because he's already leading Thunderbolts. Spidey isn't really team leader, I don't see Grimm having tactical leader abilities, Wolverine could lead but I don't see Cage or Grimm taking orders from him. Maybe tomorrow a new member will be announced that would be more suited.

      boscoe
      boscoe

      A lot of people have been talking about Ms Marvel and Blue Marvel. I agree with both those choices. I personally think Blue Marvel is a better fit on The Avengers, he is more regal. However, I think if he is on a team he will want to be on the Secret Avengers because I don't think he wants the spotlight.Ms. Marvel should be on the New Avengers, because like the Thing she fits in better. She is more headstrong like SPidey, Wolverine and Cage. Even though is one of the more popular Avengers, sort of like the Wonder Woman of Marvel Comics, she is not the aristocratic and semi-stuck up princess type. She is more comfortable hanging out with Spidey or Wolverine than being all serious with Thor, Cap or Iron Man.

      squirrel
      squirrel

      Love the addition of Grimm... but doesn't that mean Jessica Jones is the only one who isn't spreading herself thin in multiple titles.

      ebellavita77
      ebellavita77

      I was waiting for a surprise to get involved in this and here it is Ben Grimm, The Thing. I think it works the Avengers and the FF are both based in NY, so it makes more sense then Wolverine who travels around the globe and back on a daily basis. These guys all play poker and drink together this is the team we can most relate too, well I can anyway. With Jessica Jones to keep them in line. The New Avengers are not meant to take on world wide threats they're meant to take on the baddies in the shadows, well that was what Bendis has written for them since Civil War. Having seen the New Avengers roster I don't believe Spider-Man and Wolverine are on both teams. That cover is depicting all of Bendis's Avengers, my guess anyway. It makes more sense for Spidey and Wolvie to be New Avengers they don't work well being so publicized. I mean look what happened to Spidey in Civil War, we don't want to see One More Day all over again do we. A couple of things I've seen in a few of the posts too, that I want to comment on. That first character ton the Secret Avengers that everyone thought to be Spidey is the Black Panther, T'Challa. Look at the quote and look at the character. T'Challa is one of the most calculating, intelligent people in the MU, that is definitely something he would say. Number two Steve Rogers will not be in the Avengers, that is definitely Bucky Barnes in that suit. If you follow Captain America you would know that. I am still doubtful if that last person in the Secret Avengers is Steve or if it is the Patriot, I know Brubaker likes both of them, and I am doubtful anyone would want to work someone inexperienced like the Patriot. And where the hell is Ms. Marvel, I know her series is being cancelled, but she is too much of a powerhouse not to be used, does she die again in Siege? She deserves a spot on the Avengers proper as does Hank Pym. Ow, and we will be seeing more of Herc, a powered up Cho will make sure of that. Somebody better bring back Ares too, I loved him, didn't take **** from anybody. I would also love to see the Blue Marvel replace the Sentry as the MU powerhouse.

      kreemarvel
      kreemarvel

      [color=seagreen] Where's Ms. Marvel?She has not been announced anywhere, has she?If not in any original line up, she should be joining a team/ book soon.[/color]

      nt1ez8
      nt1ez8 plus member

      The Thing...wow nice addition, something new for the New AvengersI wonder if there'll be a surprise sixth character revealed today like they did for Secret Avengers

      tubaisland06
      tubaisland06

      well... Thing certainly is a surprise... a little weird but I can dig it

      silentprocess
      silentprocess

      Another thing is.... Who's to day Ben will stay with the FF, it's not like he hasn't took a haitus before.Remember when She-Hulk was on the FF?

      magnusj
      magnusj

      Maybe the New Avengers will be a group of rotating heroes pulled from across the Marvel U based on the threat. Everybody would have the chance to be shoulder-tapped to be an Avenger, if only for a single mission. After The 50 States Initiative practically every hero became, by default, an Avenger anyway, so why not open up the roster to anyone? At least this would explain the "New" aspect of the team, as every mission would have a "new" team dynamic. Just a thought.

      ageightyeight
      ageightyeight

      New Avengers = New Defenders! Don't get me wrong, I'm really looking forward to this lineup and the book. Just put in Hellcat, Gargoyle, and Devilslayer and we'd really be in business. But please don't add Nighthawk.Seriously though, the Thing is a great addition. He was kind of an ex officio member of the West Coast Avengers back in the day. So it's great to see him here.

      CloakedDagger
      CloakedDagger

      Ben Grimm? Hm, why not? He's an awesome character.

      vijinand
      vijinand

      I'm psyched about this! I love every character on this team so far. Never pictured them as a team, but half the fun should be seeing how these guys operate together. I especially like it, 'cause so far Spidey is really the only "brains" of the group. Hopefully he'll get to show off that side of himself a little bit more than he has lately.

      Perplexor
      Perplexor

      The Thing? Really? Like, I know he's a great character, and if he wasn't attached to the FF I'd be so for it, but I HATE multi-group characters or characters who have so much going on and then they get into a group as well. Spidey, Wolvie, Thingy... let's get some non-mainstreamers, huh? Justice, Silverclaw, let's freakin bring back Jan pr Dr. Druid! lol

      silentprocess
      silentprocess

      Now, that is what I'm talking about.. Something different.. I was hoping for a underused character though.. But I think I'm going to like this. I've never read FF and my experience with it has been not good overall, this may open my mind a bit.