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      BlackSamurai
      BlackSamurai

      Yeah, her caption does read a bit off. The usual saying is "Anything you can do, I can do better!" but hers seems to imply that she can do it, just not as well as the person she is emulating, that the other person is still better. Of course, it could be just looking that way because the writer attempted to rearrange the phrase, and failed to account for its possible connotation.Whether hers is an adeptness or an actual case of not-as-photographic reflexes a la Taskmaster, technology or genetic engineering (sigh, how we miss the simple X-gene) I will admit her design and codename are cool enough. But after Prodogy (David Alleyne), Echo, years of Taskmaster, and the slew of non-powered-but-extremely-skilled fighters, she'll have to have far more interesting things about her than just a copy skill power to really make a mark.

      kreemarvel
      kreemarvel

      [quote@boscoe Maybe Finesse is related to Task Master, although I am just throwing that out there, with no proof, like there is for a Hazmat-Radioactive Man connection.[/quote] [color=seagreen] That's the first thing I thought when I read her caption.She can learn skills, although she would gain a lower level than the person she is copying them from, I guess.[/color]

      bds197485
      bds197485

      [quote@humpa avengers academy sounds like a MTV/VH1 reality show.[/quote] Maybe Lady GaGa will be one of the instructors at the academy.

      Specterofthepast
      Specterofthepast

      I was hoping that Melee would be on the team but with finess it's doubtful. I'm still crossing my fingers that Butterball will make the team.

      humpa
      humpa

      avengers academy sounds like a MTV/VH1 reality show.

      BlackSamurai
      BlackSamurai

      [quote:05f7cc0418="Agent 27"]These last two, Hazmat and Finesse, look promising. What they all need is a good teacher/mentor. Looking forward to this book.Foster for Frost Giant and Van Dyne for Valkyrie and while we're at it The Ancient One for headmaster of Avengers Academy![/quote] Hahahahahaaaa. I only just noticed the last line Agent. That would sure would be a sight to see if the Ancient One actually rolled up in this (MU) day and age. The few magic users across the MU really seem to have little practical apprenticeship, as one would expect of sorcery. I see a role for Strange in something like that though; especially after seeming set to actually become a mentor both during the search for a new Sorceror Supreme and his mini. (Those who can't do, teach. non?)Hazmat and Finesse do look promising, but I find myself a little disappointed with the potential repetition there seems to be of late in the last decade or so. If Hazmat actually turned out to have links to Radioactive Man (which on its own wouldn't have bothered me one way or another), I'd wonder why that would have to be now, seeing as they just announced a son of Radioactive Man supposedly being in Young Allies as part of the [i] Bastards of Evil[/i] .

      DrPym
      DrPym

      I think taht Striker is like living Lightning so him saying he is the Spotlight is just a clue to his powers.

      wbgeek
      wbgeek

      [quote@BlackSamurai [quote@wbgeek This is just me, but I dislike the fact that they are putting reptil in the "real" universe, but that is mostly because I just don't like the super hero squad.[/quote] He's been in the 'real' universe for some time now. It was earlier mentioned by others and you may have missed it, but he appeared in an Initiative Oneshot (I think in 2008) and mostly wanted help finding his parents. He was mentored mostly by Tigra, trained a bit with Komodo and a few other recruits one on one, and ended up being directed to the Savage Land (partially to help the search, partially to escape Initiative misuse). If your first introduction to him was the show, and you dislike it, I can surely sympathize why he'd rub you wrong appearing here.[/quote] Thanks for the background on him. I thought I had all the Initiative stuff, but I guess I missed that one.

      GundamAce
      GundamAce

      other website have a charater will be related to radioactive man so thats hazmat and other looks like a mix of taskmaster and domino.

      boscoe
      boscoe

      [quote@BlackSamurai [quote@boscoe "I am the spotlight" doesn't mean he is arrogant, it could mean that his powers have something to do with light. The quote is alluding to his powers in someway.[/quote] You have a point, and I did not ignore or forget the power set; but I presumed that they intended a double entendre: being arrogant and making a play on the light aspect of his powers (mind you I don't associate spotlights with lightning, but it does tend to light things up, ergo...)Don't get me wrong. I'll be there when he does get his character actually fleshed out in the comic, and only then will I be able to see whether he is indeed arrogant/overconfident (or trying to appear that way to hide an insecurity). Either way, the little comments accompanying each character in these promotions is meant to hint us in to something about them and that's part of the interpretation I gathered from it. It doesn't reflect on whether I like him, dislike him, etc. as a character... I'm just noting that in order to distinguish a large roster of characters from one another, arrogance is one of the stronger characteristics one can give a character to make hm stand out from the rabble, whether it's likable arrogance or such designed to make us dislike them a bit (or a lot).Meekness, sympathy inducement, troubled, withdrawn, caring, determined, etc. are all other characteristic archetypes used in the medium to give an immediately identifiable identity to them as well, until more page time can back those personality projections up or turn them on their head. Like I also said though, aside from arrogance or light aspect pun on powers, the statement could even be interpreted like a drag queen's flamboyant stereotypical speech antics --- and that doesn't mean I actually am assuming Striker'll be a drag queen either, okay?Before, I was just clarifying for you that such talk of his arrogance was stemming from his statement, not his name. I'm up for seeing what he will be when the book comes out.[/quote] I agree with your point as well. I am not assuming that he isn't arrogant, he very well might be, I am just not assuming he is either. His name might be a reflection of his powers and his attitude, like Braniac 5 from Legion of Super Heroes. someone calls themselves Braniac, they are either really smart, really arrogant or both.I also like these two new characters. I think that Hazmat is related to Radioctive Man. That would be very interesting.Maybe Finesse is related to Task Master, although I am just throwing that out there, with no proof, like there is for a Hazmat-Radioactive Man connection.

      ageightyeight
      ageightyeight

      These last two, Hazmat and Finesse, look promising. What they all need is a good teacher/mentor. Looking forward to this book.Foster for Frost Giant and Van Dyne for Valkyrie and while we're at it The Ancient One for headmaster of Avengers Academy!

      DrPym
      DrPym

      Im not a big USAgent fan,Dan Slott wrote him very well but i wouldnt wont him in any of the new Avenger titiels

      silentprocess
      silentprocess

      [quote@DrPym Hank will most Likely play a big part in the book,and we could see other Avengers come in and out of the book.And maybe some Avengers could be full time like She-Hulk Also some of the old AT:I Trianees.[/quote] I hope Pym plays a big part in this book... Or they announce another Avengers book with the Mighty team for the most part intact.. As long as they use him and U.S. Agent!!

      BlackSamurai
      BlackSamurai

      [quote@wbgeek This is just me, but I dislike the fact that they are putting reptil in the "real" universe, but that is mostly because I just don't like the super hero squad.[/quote] He's been in the 'real' universe for some time now. It was earlier mentioned by others and you may have missed it, but he appeared in an Initiative Oneshot (I think in 2008) and mostly wanted help finding his parents. He was mentored mostly by Tigra, trained a bit with Komodo and a few other recruits one on one, and ended up being directed to the Savage Land (partially to help the search, partially to escape Initiative misuse). If your first introduction to him was the show, and you dislike it, I can surely sympathize why he'd rub you wrong appearing here.

      DrPym
      DrPym

      Hank will most Likely play a big part in the book,and we could see other Avengers come in and out of the book.And maybe some Avengers could be full time like She-Hulk Also some of the old AT:I Trianees.

      Mummra_t_e_l
      Mummra_t_e_l

      [quote@mrpatrickcunningham I've been the main person cheerleading for the other Avenger titles that are coming out. [/quote] Thats quite a statement there Mr.Pat!!! Nt sure u r the "main" person! :PI'm left wonderin what exactly makes this an Avengers book! I have to assume that the Avengers will be the training staff, much like A:TI. As of now there is nothing but the title linking it even remotely to the Avengers.

      silentprocess
      silentprocess

      Yeah, Marvel needs to use the Initiative characters somewhere.. Why waste all that development?

      wbgeek
      wbgeek

      [quote@StateoftheInitiative Oh boy, MORE new characters created out of thin air whom will never have a substantial story arc past the first 10 issues. I can't wait for these new characters to collect dust on the shelf and never have any relevance again!It kinda reminds me of Cloud 9, whom was and still is my favorite character to come out of A:TI. For shame Gage and Slott! For shame![/quote] Very true. I was hoping that the Academy would have some of the characters that I liked from A:TI (Cloud 9 topping the list), but it looks like they are just going to make up More new characters who will be subsequently abandoned once again.This is just me, but I dislike the fact that they are putting reptil in the "real" universe, but that is mostly because I just don't like the super hero squad.

      mrpatrickcunningham
      mrpatrickcunningham

      I have to say I'm really not all that impressed with any of this. I've been the main person cheerleading for the other Avenger titles that are coming out. This one just isn't doing it for me. I don't like the whole emo look that they all have. As far as Fortress goes, I'm thinking it probably has something to do with the numerous false bodies that the Red Skull has had. If feels like every few years his consciousness get's put into another body. It wouldn't surprise me if this is a body that was being developed for him or was abandoned by him or something and someone else got ahold of it. Who knows. He's the only character that is kinda making my spidey sense tingle. Veil is kinda cool looking, but I have the feeling that she's a variation on Cloak. Mr "I am the spotlight" looks EXACTLY like Tempest from DC, just with a little more black. Reptil has never impressed me. My 8 year old son watches Super Hero Squad and HE thinks the character's stupid. I'm really not trying to be the guy that tears everything down, because that's not me. When it comes to Avengers books, I'm on board 100%. This just isn't grabbing my interest. Still, I'll be willing to pick up a few issues. Who knows. I've had my mind changed before. I always love being pleasantly surprised.

      Christophilius
      Christophilius

      did I mention I think he looks "ha-ha" funny? You know, like, in the whole FACE area. I can't get past it. But it's not a bad thing. Just cracks me up.

      ageightyeight
      ageightyeight

      I know for titles of comic books it's not a good thing to have the same one out there twice (legally speaking). The same for big name characters but then you have villians like Scarecrow out there in different companies and nothing much said. Guess we'll have to wait and see what happens with Fortress.Foster for Frost Giant, Van Dyne for Valkyrie. I see the logic, I really do.

      BlackSamurai
      BlackSamurai

      [quote@boscoe "I am the spotlight" doesn't mean he is arrogant, it could mean that his powers have something to do with light. The quote is alluding to his powers in someway.[/quote] You have a point, and I did not ignore or forget the power set; but I presumed that they intended a double entendre: being arrogant and making a play on the light aspect of his powers (mind you I don't associate spotlights with lightning, but it does tend to light things up, ergo...)Don't get me wrong. I'll be there when he does get his character actually fleshed out in the comic, and only then will I be able to see whether he is indeed arrogant/overconfident (or trying to appear that way to hide an insecurity). Either way, the little comments accompanying each character in these promotions is meant to hint us in to something about them and that's part of the interpretation I gathered from it. It doesn't reflect on whether I like him, dislike him, etc. as a character... I'm just noting that in order to distinguish a large roster of characters from one another, arrogance is one of the stronger characteristics one can give a character to make hm stand out from the rabble, whether it's likable arrogance or such designed to make us dislike them a bit (or a lot).Meekness, sympathy inducement, troubled, withdrawn, caring, determined, etc. are all other characteristic archetypes used in the medium to give an immediately identifiable identity to them as well, until more page time can back those personality projections up or turn them on their head. Like I also said though, aside from arrogance or light aspect pun on powers, the statement could even be interpreted like a drag queen's flamboyant stereotypical speech antics --- and that doesn't mean I actually am assuming Striker'll be a drag queen either, okay?Before, I was just clarifying for you that such talk of his arrogance was stemming from his statement, not his name. I'm up for seeing what he will be when the book comes out.

      szensei
      szensei

      I wonder if Marvel will have to change the name of FORTRESS. The IMAGE comics boys just introduced the world to a character called FORTRESS.

      boscoe
      boscoe

      [quote@BlackSamurai Errrmm, Striker's name's nothing to do with it. It's the quote "I don't want the spotlight. I am the spotlight!" Can be considered either arrogant or hearkens back a decade or so to the cross-dressing men being 'vogue' and saying things like that. Primadona-ish.[/quote] "I am the spotlight" doesn't mean he is arrogant, it could mean that his powers have something to do with light. The quote is alluding to his powers in someway.

      Mummra_t_e_l
      Mummra_t_e_l

      [quote@StateoftheInitiative Oh boy, MORE new characters created out of thin air whom will never have a substantial story arc past the first 10 issues. I can't wait for these new characters to collect dust on the shelf and never have any relevance again!It kinda reminds me of Cloud 9, whom was and still is my favorite character to come out of A:TI. For shame Gage and Slott! For shame![/quote] Yeah, sumfin def needs to be done with Cloud 9!!She was my favourite character from the Initiative too!! She should be on a stealth team- her powerset/ abilities are perfect for it!

      moonknight342
      moonknight342

      Wow does anyone else see the resemblance of Red Skull and Fortress? I sense an anti-hero. Haha

      StateoftheInitiative
      StateoftheInitiative

      Oh boy, MORE new characters created out of thin air whom will never have a substantial story arc past the first 10 issues. I can't wait for these new characters to collect dust on the shelf and never have any relevance again!It kinda reminds me of Cloud 9, whom was and still is my favorite character to come out of A:TI. For shame Gage and Slott! For shame!

      theshock621
      theshock621

      [quote@tubaisland06 Well now we know who the heavy hitter for this team is. He actually looks kind of cool, sort of Red Skull mixed with Dr. Doom. I can dig it. I guess the question is, is he all robot, is he a cyborg, is he a human soul trapped in a metal body ala Full Metal Alchemist (not that I watch the show and am glad I quit since Edward was just gonna die in the end anyway). It would be cool if this Fortress dude had the same sort of abilities to control machines the way that War Machine does. I mean he had his legs blown off and just attached his upper torso to a freakin tank. Awesome. Still on the fence about this title although it is peaking my interest. I also like how they included Reptil who was a character they made up especially for Super Hero Squad, which is a pretty damn funny show for a kids Marvel cartoon. I love all the comic book jokes that little kids wouldn't really get. I mean common, Dr. Doom checking his e-mail and adding Magneto as a friend on Facebook was priceless. Anyway, This guy looks pretty cool. So far we have the stealth, the power, the beastial, and the muscle. Can't wait to see who they crank out next, probably the brains or the warrior. Damn you Marvel for making so many books that I want to read.[/quote] I agree, Fortress looks awesome and this book may be a picker-upper...btw....Edward Elric doesnt exactly "die" at the end of FullMetal Alchemist...Watch it til the very end and the movie, "Conqueror of Shamballa" ...I promise it won't disappoint!

      silentprocess
      silentprocess

      Don't know what to think about Fortress. I'll just have to wait till the book comes out and see what he's about and what his origin is.

      CloakedDagger
      CloakedDagger

      Someone who looks interesting! Fortress looks pretty sweet.

      Christophilius
      Christophilius

      Fortress looks kinda silly, buuuut I'll reserve judgment until I see him in action. I do like the idea of fresh characters!

      CapLivesOn
      CapLivesOn

      A robot/cyborg with a skull face...what more can a growing boy ask for? :wink:I like that Marvel is trying to grow a new crop of characters. These guys may never become household names, but the variety is nice. That way things don't get stale.

      ageightyeight
      ageightyeight

      I like the look, really I do. Face just reminds me of Ultimate Red Skull (even though I know, at least I think I know, it's not true). This name like the others is easy to remember and sends a solid message to the readers. Looking forward to finding out more about this one.Bill Foster for Frost Giant and Janet Van Dyne for Valkyrie in 2010!

      darkxman123
      darkxman123

      fortess sound cool cog inside him asome

      Mummra_t_e_l
      Mummra_t_e_l

      @Silent Process: I also am very fond of the Scarlet Spider(s). But there is only one left! I dont consider him to be a multiple of Spider-Man tho. He has a very different look (from regular Spidey costume) as well as other powers like cloaking and gliding. I like that he's sort of a mix of Spidey and Iron Man!This new guy, Fortress looks pretty cool! It'd be awesome if he did have that techno-mancer-like ability of War-Machines!!

      GundamAce
      GundamAce

      i like the fact that these are brand new heroes, fortress is kind of creepy i wonder what his power base is

      tubaisland06
      tubaisland06

      Well now we know who the heavy hitter for this team is. He actually looks kind of cool, sort of Red Skull mixed with Dr. Doom. I can dig it. I guess the question is, is he all robot, is he a cyborg, is he a human soul trapped in a metal body ala Full Metal Alchemist (not that I watch the show and am glad I quit since Edward was just gonna die in the end anyway). It would be cool if this Fortress dude had the same sort of abilities to control machines the way that War Machine does. I mean he had his legs blown off and just attached his upper torso to a freakin tank. Awesome. Still on the fence about this title although it is peaking my interest. I also like how they included Reptil who was a character they made up especially for Super Hero Squad, which is a pretty damn funny show for a kids Marvel cartoon. I love all the comic book jokes that little kids wouldn't really get. I mean common, Dr. Doom checking his e-mail and adding Magneto as a friend on Facebook was priceless. Anyway, This guy looks pretty cool. So far we have the stealth, the power, the beastial, and the muscle. Can't wait to see who they crank out next, probably the brains or the warrior. Damn you Marvel for making so many books that I want to read.

      silentprocess
      silentprocess

      I'm actually fond of the Scarlet Spiders... There's only 2 left right? I don't know if their is much they can do with them.. I mean Marvel kind of burnt their audience out on multiple Spider-Man's during the clone-age. I really want to see Trauma, Cloud 9 and Hardball (is he still w/ Hydra?). Gauntlet is interesting I'll admit but I never got too attached to the character.

      BlackSamurai
      BlackSamurai

      Errrmm, Striker's name's nothing to do with it. It's the quote "I don't want the spotlight. I am the spotlight!" Can be considered either arrogant or hearkens back a decade or so to the cross-dressing men being 'vogue' and saying things like that. Primadona-ish.

      boscoe
      boscoe

      I am happy Reptil will be in the book, he seems likable and average. That doesn't sound exciting, he is the type of person you don't to see anything bad happen to. But with Gage steering thing he is exactly the type of person that will go through some serious changes!What is with the criticism on Striker? I don't think his name sounds arrogant. By that basis, Superman should be the most arrogant person ever! I think Striker sounds like the name of the guy who goes in first, who takes charge, and heads into danger before anyone else, because he can handle it. He strikes, hence the name. Just like enforcers on hockey, they are called enforcers because that is what they do, not who they are as people.

      BlackSamurai
      BlackSamurai

      Y'allz crack me up! Scout badges for your support of the [minuscule] movement for Foster and Van Dyne, Agent 27. I was pretty blah about Reptyl myself, while reading the Initiative special, but I don't exactly dislike him. I'm psyched that there is hope for the characters of Initiative if they remembered him. As I said before though, I hope they remember the larger reason why people want to see new characters; we want new blood to take off and hope Marvel, and other companies, still have the chops to build someone from scratch and take them all the way to the big stage, but that won't happen if they keep bringing in newbies every time the previous wave started to get interesting. Trauma, Cloud 9, Gauntlet and Hardball have gold potential as brand new characters built from scratch, and Penance, Constrictor and Bengal have some solid resurgences, though Bengal's steam sorta tapered off since the Shadow Initiative faded out of view so long. Not as sold on Komodo but she had potential, and, this may only be me, but the Scarlet Spider(s) just seem soulless.

      moonknight342
      moonknight342

      Haha mine was better he had a sweatshirt that turned him into dinosaurs. Plus he could fully turn into any dino. But anyways yeah I think marvel is reading my mind and stealing ideas.

      silentprocess
      silentprocess

      Marvel has built devices that read peoples thoughts... So I would be worried if I were you moonknight342... I would be very worried. And by the way please think of a better character next time :).

      moonknight342
      moonknight342

      I hate Reptil. Mostly because he seems like a rip off of a character I made up when I was like 10. I know Marvel couldn't have stolen my idea because it was always in my head but still annoys me to see him for some reason.

      darkxman123
      darkxman123

      reptil hmm (tilting a litte more on this sky skarpper but i want to learn more about this striker guy so im still picking it up

      ageightyeight
      ageightyeight

      Well here's our first Avengers Academy recruit from Intiative days. If you missed it he debuted in an Initiative special. Hopefully, Gage can work some magic and bring considerable depth to this character.Regardless of my lack of enthusiasm for this reveal, the powers this character brings to the table provides some interesting possibilities and once again the name is simple and is easily remembered.Here's hoping Moonboy and Devil Dinosaur have a guest appearance (I actually do like them and would love to see the characters developed more).By the way Bill Foster=Frost Giant and Janet Van Dyne=Valkyrie!

      Medalionsoldier
      Medalionsoldier

      Hey! It's teenage Alex Mercer from the preview videos!

      Mummra_t_e_l
      Mummra_t_e_l

      I dont mind if its gonna be mostly new characters- in fact I loved that about A:TI- but why would they take the single worst, over-pushed character from the Initiative, in Reptil??! Stop! He's crap!Regardless, the fact that Gage is writing it will make me buy it!Im just really hopin for more Cloud 9, Hardball and Constrictor!! Maybe not in this book, but they cant just dissappear!!

      ThorBiscuit
      ThorBiscuit

      Whoa, cool! Reptyl?! Who the heck is this? Hmmmm, I need to do some research.

      BlackSamurai
      BlackSamurai

      Yayyyy! So they've begun to reveal links back to the title's predecessor. Reptyl was interesting, but barely scratched the surface, so they've got similar newness to go with for him. ...Still waiting on which of the more newly established will get a place though.