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Marvel Proudly Presents Thor

Meet the new female hero who will wield Mjolnir and see an exclusive first image of the unworthy former Thunder God!

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Marvel is excited to announce an all-new era for the God of Thunder in brand new series, THOR, written by Jason Aaron complimented with art from Russell Dauterman.

This October, Marvel Comics evolves once again in one of the most shocking and exciting changes ever to shake one of the “big three” of Captain America, Iron Man and Thor. No longer is the classic Thunder God able to hold the mighty hammer, Mjölnir, and a brand new female hero will emerge worthy of the name THOR.

Who is she? Where did she come from and what is her connection to Asgard and the Marvel Universe?

“The inscription on Thor's hammer reads ‘Whosoever holds this hammer, if HE be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor.’ Well it's time to update that inscription,” says Marvel editor Wil Moss. “The new Thor continues Marvel's proud tradition of strong female characters like Captain Marvel, Storm, Black Widow and more. And this new Thor isn't a temporary female substitute - she's now the one and only Thor, and she is worthy!”

      Series writer Jason Aaron emphasizes, “This is not She-Thor. This is not Lady Thor. This is not Thorita. This is THOR. This is the THOR of the Marvel Universe. But it’s unlike any Thor we’ve ever seen before.”

      THOR is the latest in the ever-growing and long list of female-centric titles that continues to invite new readers into the Marvel Universe. THOR will be the 8th title to feature a lead female protagonist and aims to speak directly to an audience that long was not the target for super hero comic books in America: women and girls.

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          WolfieSmith
          WolfieSmith

          War and preparation for war represents socially wasted production, it creates super-profits for the military industrial complex controlled by HYDRA. Loki and HYDRA use this socially useless production and state expenditure which could and should be used to create food, homes, provide health care, education and other socially useful production.

          Thor and Sif as the god and goddess of the common people and nature, should be leading the struggle against Loki and HYDRA. Wars against Islam and terror have become an excuse for monopolistic accumulation an imperialist appropriation of resources such as oil and gas.

          State investment as well as private investment is being used to create super-profits and wealth for those behind HYDRA, rather than socially useful investment in the wellbeing of the majority. We live in a world of growing inequality with poverty and insecurity for the majority and obscene wealth and power for a minority.

          This is a story line which would connect with the everyday experiences of readers male and female. Young people leaving collage and school going into jobs with low wages and no health insurance, older workers who have lost jobs in manufacturing, the steel industry or agriculture.

          They would be able to identify with how Loki and HYDRA have destroyed the American dream of democracy and prosperity. How a corrupt elite have used the monopoly finance capital, multinational corporations and the state to accumulate wealth and power at the expense of the ordinary Joe, not just in the USA, but across the globe. This would be a story of a Thor worth of Mjölnir.

          WolfieSmith
          WolfieSmith

          The Walking Dead is the top selling comic and Saga the top selling both by Image. I think this shows that what is wanted is a more adult comic and graphic novel by today's market. Marvel should be developing Thor based upon the character played by Chris Hemsworth and Sif played by Jaimie Alexander. The female Thor on offer here doesn't fit the bill of a more adult superhero/heroine, I think that's what will attract the female readership. A hero who takes on the dark forces of monopoly finance-capital. Captain America and Thor will appeal to readers who face alienation from society and the insecurity of work that has resulted from thirty five years of neo-liberal economics and neo-conservative government. Thor is the god of the common people, Sif is the goddess of nature, together the can confront the attack on living standards and ecological crises created by HYDRA and Loki. That would be an adult story line for the 21st century.

          WolfieSmith
          WolfieSmith

          The Dark World is where the future of Thor lies, fighting the forces of evil and Loki. Fighting to prevent Ragnarok (ecological catastrophe) created by HYDRA, the military industrial complexes and monopoly finance-capital. That's an adult story line that would appeal to 21st century comic and graphic novel readers.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=assKdG5CVD4

          WolfieSmith
          WolfieSmith

          Do female Thor fans want a female Thor?

          WolfieSmith
          WolfieSmith

          Female Thor

          ''We believe there’s an audience of women out there who are hungry for this and we want to make sure they get it. This is affirmative action. This is capitalism.'' (Axel Alonso, Marvel’s editor-in-chief)

          Market Research Says 46.67% of Comic Fans are Female and that's why Thor will become a female.

          http://comicsbeat.com/market-research-says-46-female-comic-fans/

           

          str8chi
          str8chi

          Can't say I'm not surprised.  They've been slowly, and seemingly on purpose, losing fans of a once great character, my favorite character to boot.  This is an all time low though.  I looked past the Red Hulk thing.  The constant losses to the regular Hulk, though Thor is far more powerful...maybe not stronger, but more powerful.  But you just skip emasculation and head straight towards castration!  I'm pretty much done with this whole thing.  Thor, Spider-Man, and Wolverine...  You've lost me Marvel, and I'm sure I'm not going to be the only one.  I knew the writers hated Thor but aside from saying it out loud, they need go no further to show it.  

          Scholar07
          Scholar07 member

          She can take the hammer and shove it ... on the wall ... that's as far as it will go.

          Majorpayne77
          Majorpayne77

          this is extremely sad....why Marvel?!?.....WHY???????????

          fly_er@yahoo.com
          fly_er@yahoo.com

          I have been a Thor fan for over 20 years and had just renewed the 4 titles that are mailed to me monthly until I heard this crap and quickly called and had my $25 switched to another title. If they follow through with this, I'm going to be canceling all of my titles and (Heaven forbid) giving my money to DC for Superman, Green Lantern, maybe Powergirl, and Green Arrow. I budget myself 4 titles a month and while I've always "made mine Marvel", this is just too heartbreaking and ridiculous to steal one of the most cherished characters of all time. I'd love to see Jack Kirby's face if they ever asked him to pencil a female Thor! Mr. Lee sir, with a tremendous amount of well deserved respect - what the hell are you thinking?!


          roguedono
          roguedono

          So many people hating...honestly...it seems a lot of people are not understanding why she took up the name "Thor". There is a reason behind this as well as a backstory to it. How about we not judge before reading it? :/  Less people seem to be hating on the Black Captain America. This Thor is unique and honestly how is it different than gender bending other Thors? Look at Thor Girl. She was legit Thor.  I highly doubt she  will take the hammer for GOOD, considering Marvel tends to find ways to bring back the old versions of their heroes. So let's just all calm our tits and enjoy the change while it happens. There will be haters everywhere and for everything.  But this is a pretty neat concept and a refresher from the standard Thor comics.

          writer_guy
          writer_guy

          Political correctness corrupts, then destroys.  Whether it's a nation's borders, enabling Islamic extremists, or warping and destroying literary characters and mythological traditions... It is the strategy of the intellectually bankrupt.

          Since you are so 'groundbreaking' with your new PC sensibilities, Marvel, why don't you give us all a White or Asian "Black Panther"?  C'mon, step up and show us how "creative" you are.

          In short: A female "Thor" is the equivalent of mountain oysters on a cow.  Get a clue.

          vinnie_J
          vinnie_J

          This is stupid! Thor is one of my favourite characters! This is disregarding already established fans and disgracing Thor's Legacy! DC may create new timelines, but even they would not go as far as to ruin one of their most iconic characters! You idiots could have just made an entirely new super hero! FU.

          KeliaConnor
          KeliaConnor

          I'd like to see Marvel editor Wil Moss replaced with a woman... and she should be renamed Wil Moss.


          The inscription on the hammer reads "whosoever wields this hammer," yada yada yada... just because someone is worthy to wield the hammer and power of Thor does not MAKE them Thor.  Its his actual name, not his secret identity.  Giving it to whoever is currently wielding the hammer is akin to identity theft and just a cheap attempt to cash in on the idea of promoting the idea that women can be anyone and anything that men can.


          Can the new wielder, a woman, be the goddess of thunder?  Sure, I have no problem with that.  Can she be Thor?  No more so than a female replacement editor can be Wil Moss.

          Usedtobeaguy1
          Usedtobeaguy1

          Hi,i'm Jimena,i was born a white male but Marvel comics turned me into a black female because they wanted to have more black female fans.They changed my name from Jimmy to Jimena. I liked being a guy but now everyone loves me because I look so hot in a bikini.Thanks Marvel,stan Lee paid for the surgery.I guess they want to change all of us.The next hero will be Milk Fairy,a gay hero with a mustache who get's his' superpowers by drinking radioactive white ( "milk?" )

          Kingsman0
          Kingsman0

          Woman haters everywhere, i see. Too bad. This is just a ploy to get people talking about this title. It's working. (Thanks for participating)

          Don't worry woman haters... this won't be forever. You will get your manly man back soon enough, calm down.

          Then you can throw a men only party. And rejoice with the other manly men. Have faith... lol 

          CodSwallop
          CodSwallop

          ITT: people who don't understand what it's like to be underrepresented in media and lack strong role models.

          Scholar07
          Scholar07 member

          So... What is Marvel's response to all of this that has been said?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

          were1234
          were1234

          Just taking a guess thor will turn out to be Jane foster

          WolfieSmith
          WolfieSmith

          Here's a list of female goddesses from Norse mythology, Marvel should be able to find a new female super-heroine from this without turning Thor into a female.

          Frigga - Goddess of marriage and motherhood.

          Gefjun - Goddess of fertility and plough.

          Hlín - Goddess of consolation and protection.

          Iðunn - Goddess of youth.

          Jörð - Goddess of the Earth. Mother of Þórr by Odin.

          Lofn - Goddess of forbidden loves.

          Nanna - Goddess of joy and peace, an Ásynja married with Baldr and mother to Forseti. Died because of Baldur's death.

          Nerþus - A goddess mentioned by Tacitus. Her name is connected to that of Njörðr.

          Nótt - Goddess of night, daughter of Narvi and mother of Auð, Jörð and Dagr by Naglfari, Annar and Delling, respectively.

          Sága - An obscure goddess, possibly another name for Frigg.

          Ran - Goddess of the sea.

          Sif - Wife of Thor. Goddess of harvest.

          Sjöfn - Goddess of love.

          Skaði - Goddess of winter; Njörðr's wife.

          Snotra - Goddess of prudence.

          Sol - Goddess of Sun. Swallowed by Skoll.

          Vár - Goddess of contract.

          Vör - Goddess of wisdom.

          Yggdrasil - Goddess of life. Tree of life. Connects the 9 worlds.


          WolfieSmith
          WolfieSmith

          Thor battles to save Earth from a shadowy enemy, this is what we expect from he who is worthy of Mjölnir!

          WolfieSmith
          WolfieSmith

          If Marvel developed the love triangle between Thor, Sif and Jane Foster, that's true to the Thor character in Norse mythology. A god who likes female company.

          WolfieSmith
          WolfieSmith

          Marvel need to look at Saga and the theme of struggle and survive, if you want to attract a an adult and female readership this is the way to go with Thor, sorry this female THOR isn't going to cut it.

          WolfieSmith
          WolfieSmith

          Comic sales grew in 2013 but Marvel's share of the market has fallen from 41% in 2008 to 33.5%, DC held its share at 30%. Will a female Thor stop the fall in Marvel's share of the market or accelerate its loss of market share?

          Majorpayne77
          Majorpayne77

          @vinnie_J imagine if DC went and got rid of Batman and in his place gave the world BatGirl, same goes for Superman/Supergirl....now I know there are those characters, what I am referring to is the replacement of not in addition to

          LordAsharack
          LordAsharack

          @KeliaConnor  There was a series, Earth X, that had a female Thor - not a replacement or anything, but THOR was female. In doing so, they had a perfectly legit backstory. I'm curious to find out if this is the same backstory or not.

          Scholar07
          Scholar07 member

          @Kingsman0 you are out of wack with that comment.  That's not the point.

          KeliaConnor
          KeliaConnor

          @Kingsman0 

          I'm not a woman hater. In fact I am a woman and am very pro-women in general. I like the idea of Thor's replacement being a woman but not giving her his name. I'm not at all a fan of replacing characters with others just to fill traditional roles with minorities including women. Make new characters and make them the equal to the traditional big names of yesterday, and if they are good and well written I will read. But cashing in on old character super names with new characters of different gender or ethnicity doesnt really work for me. Its like saying that these minority characters can only work IF they trade on the fame established by the long-time traditionally white male names. Its complete crap and a cheap ploy being used by Marvel because they are too unimaginative and impatient to develop real, original characters organically.

          macaronii_3
          macaronii_3

          @Athena8088 AMEN HALLELUJAH PRAISE DA LORD!!!!! Someone with intelligence. This idea is ass!!! I love my regular Thor (Chris Hemsworth). He's my favorite super hero despite I'm like 16 and should be doing something better with my life. I get the whole girls/ women are independent and strong thing, I get it . I'm a girl too and I hate that were're always inferior to the male. However, it is not right to derail Thor his honor not only in the book but on the big screen to just to prove a point. Why don't they change some other super hero why does it have to be Thor?? Why him? I made the dumb account just to write out my feelings and I'm probably not gonna use it again but I'm praying that when that trailer for Thor 3: Ragnarok comes out or when I'm in the front row on July 2016 watching Thor and some chick wanna claim to be Thor....that is the day all faith and hope in my world disappears. I mean hey, I never liked Jane cause she took my boo but....it's one thing to have a crush on Thor and another to want to take the whole essence of his personality. ON THE UPSIDE, I'm totally looking forward to the Loki and daddy drama. Hope this Thoretta idea doesn't get too serious.  

          Athena8088
          Athena8088

          I'm female. Thor is one of THE most fundamental Marvel Characters and there are plenty of strong female characters to choose from... 

          This is obviously a bad attempt by you to trivialize the need for more female role models.
          Your fans are too smart to be fooled by this bad joke - you will never follow through with it.

          KeliaConnor
          KeliaConnor

          @CodSwallop Its true we need more minority representation in the media, but simply redefining existing characters to be women or another ethnicity is a shortcut fix. If Marvel wants my respect, they should develop the minority characters they have and establish new ones and give them a stronger presence.


          There is a rich supply of female characters that could be given better treatment but they are just treated like second rate support characters. Why not push them to the forefront and give them more stories?

          WolfieSmith
          WolfieSmith

          A good question @Scholar07, are they reading these posts, are they taking on board what Thor fans think about this?

          Kingsman0
          Kingsman0

          @Scholar07 @Kingsman0 Right... And what's the point? Hmm....

          I mean besides you don't agree with what's being said. Look, i get the idea of Thor becoming a female is upsetting for some.

          But this line by KelinaConner says it best " I'm not at all a fan of replacing characters with others just to fill traditional roles with minorities including women." OK. But... comic book heroes have been replaced by other characters since the golden age of comics! Captain Marvel! Superman! Batman! Captain America! (Before this latest change) Doctor Fate! (And yes, Fate was a Woman) etc.. etc... That's OK? Only white Males may apply when changing a hero? If it's a Minority, it's a PC move? Do you see how this come across? No. Still? Can you NOT see how this can be taken as a slap in the face to those people? Women. Minorities.


          Yet you mean to tell me, the minute a character of color comes along to replace another hero it's WRONG! A woman becomes Thor, it's somehow a PC move? You tell me if this even becomes a little bit of an issue if...


          1. The new Thor is a Man.

          2. Caps replacement is white.


          Answer those questions for yourself. And if you still see it through a one way lens...

          Please, do me a favor... don't respond.

          If in fact you can show both sides, for and against , maybe we can have an open discussion.


          More on Marvel.com: http://marvel.com/news/comics/22875/marvel_proudly_presents_thor#ixzz3CqqQNQcb

          Kingsman0
          Kingsman0

          @KeliaConnor @Kingsman0 "Its like saying that these minority characters can only work IF they trade on the fame established by the long-time traditionally white male names". Minorities? So... you use this platform about a Woman becoming Thor, to spout your narrow minded views on race, and traditionally WHITE males? Really?


          Wow. OK Grand Dragoness. If Capt. America was just another white guy (Like 95% of the heroes in comics are) you would have no problem with it? Huh... he's just a guy. A good guy, who happens to be black. Has known Steve Rodgers forever. He's his best friend. Color aside. But, i guess you can't look beyond that... ohh right... he's just a minority taking the place of a WHITE guy. Do you know how backwards and ignorant you sound? These are not even real people. This says a lot about you. None of it good. There should be heroes of all colors. Not just WHITE. There should be more female characters, maybe not Thor for some people. But in general. It shouldn't be an US vs them type of mentality.

          It should be heroes or villains. Not WHITE heroes or Villains. Minority heroes or Villains. Sigh...

          Being part Asian, i would like to see more Asian heroes, sure. But that's not the world i live in.

          It's Marvel. Sometimes it's DC. But it's all the same when it comes to women and minorities.


          Not nearly enough of them. And when there are, there are people like you, screaming bloody murder.

          Amazing!


          More on Marvel.com: http://marvel.com/news/comics/2014/7/15/22875/marvel_proudly_presents_thor#ixzz3CIATTWxu

          Kingsman0
          Kingsman0

          @Athena8088 Yeah, you're a female. Sure you are. Your comments say otherwise. The detest for a change based on "ONLY" the gender without reading or giving the title a chance (Not even out yet) says, just the fact it's a woman makes it a bad joke.


          Very narrow minded way of thinking, IMHO.

          Majorpayne77
          Majorpayne77

          @KeliaConnor I seriously like the way you think!!  I have officially become a fan of yours.  What you're saying makes so much sense.  They don't NEED to make Thor a female, there are several female Asgardians, correction, Asgardian Goddesses that can be elevated to the forefront.  Marvel can and has elevated minority heroes long before it became PC, and developed their own storyline, not borrow from an established one and do the quick switch.

          LordAsharack
          LordAsharack

          @Kingsman0 @Scholar07  let's look at several of the most notable character changes in the past 20 that I'm aware of:


          1. Batman: Batman was replaced (temporarily) by Azrael as Batman. Not a Robin or some other character name, but as BATMAN. Though I thought it was cool, it didn't last because people want to see the original character being who he is.


          2. Superman: When Superman died, they tried out 4 different characters to take over the role. Result? Clark Kent returned.

                            -There was another time when Superman's powers were changed, and I mean completely changed, no longer invulnerable, flight, super strength, etc. Result? He was turned back into his original powers because people don't like that fundamental of change.


          3. Marvel 2099: New timeline in the future, most of the most notable Marvel characters were completely replaced including Doctor Doom (though he was actually the same character with a new tech base and therefore new suit), Spider-Man, the X-Men, Incredible Hulk and Punisher. Result? Strong beginning for a few years, then people wanted the originals and Marvel 2099 kinda went to the wayside.


          4. Miles Morales as Spider-Man (Ultimate Marvel Universe): Only happened a few years ago and THIS change, people seem to be accepting more than anything else.


          5. Steve Rogers, aka Captain America: He died. Very spectacularly. Nobody truly wants to see Cap replaced, and as I've understood it, that has been the main thrust of the stories regarding his replacement. They (and I do mean they as there has now been 2 different replacements), have been solid in their belief that they are only replacing Captain America, NOT Steve Rogers. Steve Rogers was the hero, Captain America was only a... title the hero was known by. Result? I think they'll find some way to bring Steve Rogers back in time, but it will take a while to play out the hero worship storylines.


          6. Spider-Man/Spider-Girl: Originally printed as a "what if" comic, and subsequently published as it's own title (Spider-Girl) and becoming the forerunner of the Marvel Universe 2 (MU2), Spider-Girl was a continuation of the Spider-Man storyline creating a generational quality to it. Result? It has lasted quite a while but between the die-hard Spider-Man fans and fans of the character herself, the title had been stopped a few times only to be brought back and eventually, after over 10 years of publication, was reduced to just a section of the "Spider-Man Family" comic book magazine.


          To sum everything up, when there's an abrupt fundamental change in the character itself, rarely do people take it well and it'll usually revert back to the original. Fundamental changes can be anything that would help to develop a characters "backstory", their powers and/or identity. To change a gender or racial identity of a character IS a fundamental change and most likely won't go over too well.

          Majorpayne77
          Majorpayne77

          @Kingsman0 @KeliaConnor Um, no, you're missing the point that KeliaConnor is making.  She believes that there should be heroes of color, and supports female heroines.  What she doesn't agree to is the substituting of traditional heroes with either a woman or minority simply to do the PC thing or to take advantage of marketing etc...Being a black man I agree with her every word.  especially when you read PROPERLY what she is saying when she stated:

           "But cashing in on old character super names with new characters of different gender or ethnicity doesn't really work for me. Its like saying that these minority characters can only work IF they trade on the fame established by the long-time traditionally white male names. Its complete crap and a cheap ploy being used by Marvel because they are too unimaginative and impatient to develop real, original characters organically."

          It is so true!!!  We all know Marvel has been at the forefront of having minority superheroes and equality etc..., however this is pure stupidity as I don't feel Marvel has put a lot of thought into how this will play out.

          KeliaConnor
          KeliaConnor

          @Kingsman0 @Athena8088 

          A woman can't hate change for the sake of change or cheap marketing ploy?

          Seems pretty narrow minded to me but I guess you have it all figured out.

          Kingsman0
          Kingsman0

          @Majorpayne77 @Kingsman0 @KeliaConnor A really big red flag for me is when people use the words or lines...PC or I am or being a Black Man. Like it makes it OK to justify things... yeah, you're Black. uhh huh. 


          Anyway, what you said is your opinion. Fine. I see it another way. Unlike you, however, i won't mind read and pretend to be inside her head. She wrote what she wrote. And to me it didn't have to be about minorities, at all. Just characters that happen not to be white. So... if the new Cap is white, there isn't PC crap going on?

          What if it's the Winter Soldier? He's a killer. Right? Ohh, yeah... he's white. It's OK. 

          That's my point. There would be very little backlash. AND YOU KNOW it.

          Those people saying "That's not the point" are clueless, IMHO.


          In any case. Thor will become a female. Do i like it? I like some of the idea.

          The name> No. Make this new strong female lead, but give her a name all her own.

          That is my only gripe. That allows "THOR" to come back at some point, untainted.

          And without all of the negative crap that comes along with this whole issue.