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Thor Movie Update: Heimdall Cast

"Thor" adds another! Who'll play Heimdall? Find out now!

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Heimdall will be played by Idris Elba
Asgard's starting to fill up—at least the "Thor" movie version of it is!

True Believers all over Midgard, welcome Idris Elba (HBO's "The Wire")! Elba takes on the role of Heimdall! Verily!

In Marvel comics lore, Heimdall stood as guardian of Asgard's Rainbow Bridge and was one of Odin's most trusted servants.

Earlier this week, the actors portraying the Warriors Three were announced as well. Stuart Townsend will be Fandral. Tadanobu Asano takes on the job of Hogun. And Volstagg will be portrayed Ray Stevenson.


Thor and Heimdall

They join Chris Hemsworth as Thor, Tom Hiddleston as Loki, Anthony Hopkins as Odin and Natalie Portman as Jane Foster. Kenneth Branagh will direct.

"Thor" is one of a continuing slate of films being produced by Marvel Studios based on the Marvel characters, including "Iron Man 2" on May 7, 2010, "The First Avenger: Captain America" on July 22, 2011 and "The Avengers" on May 4, 2012.

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montujoinx
montujoinx

Hey it looks cool dude..i m really impressed.

mrharper
mrharper

These are not real people

mrharper
mrharper

Race should have nothing to do with this, its a comic book. Maybe the people behind this wanted to view this as a people not a RACE. I love Thor, I'm a older Black Man and he is white. Should I not like him because he White and pick another comic book, because I'm Black. I never thought about the race of Thor he was just a hero a Norse God and I thought Gods was for us ALL. I think the casting person hired the best possible person they could find meaning a very good Actor. This World is trying to change and should we all try to change with it. Peace

bowase
bowase

I just saw who was selected for Heimdallr and am deeply disturbed! This is an insult to the Norse and the religion of Asatru especially considering the descriptiion of Heimdallr in the Codex Regis! This is just another "Politikally Korrekt" (spelled this way for a reason) move on the part of people who wish to distort the reality of Northern European history, folklore and religion. I am a person of Norse descent and dedicated to Asatru. As much as i was looking forward to seeing Thor put to the screen, I will not spend my money to support another insult to my ancestors or their religion!

jeffburke79
jeffburke79

[quote@neo_pagan :grider: I see the word "racist" being tossed around in these blogs more than a hot potato. Well I'm a "REALIST" Casting Elba is a mistake. The "racists" around here are those who deliberately put an African face on a Norse God. I'm proud of my Scandinavian heritage and the mythology behind it and I feel really insulted by the casting director of this film. To the rest of the "mono-culture sheep" out there who think this is not a big deal well...... Ask a Jewish person or a Muslim Person or even a Japanese person and even a Native American what their culture means to them. This is just as insulting as Native Americans being played by White people in the old Hollywood Westerns![/quote] that is kind of a good point, but i never really knew anything about norse mythology/religion until a few years back. so therefore, heimdall being played by a black dude is borderline for me. in the comics, heimdall's face is covered up, so maybe it will be in the movie as well.

jeffburke79
jeffburke79

weeeeeeeeeeeeeiirrrrd. i wonder how this will work. i didn't know he was british.

Cisco0524
Cisco0524

will thor be CGI like the last Hulk movie......and when Dr. Blake changes into thor ;thor has to be done in CGI........

neo_pagan
neo_pagan

:grider: I see the word "racist" being tossed around in these blogs more than a hot potato. Well I'm a "REALIST" Casting Elba is a mistake. The "racists" around here are those who deliberately put an African face on a Norse God. I'm proud of my Scandinavian heritage and the mythology behind it and I feel really insulted by the casting director of this film. To the rest of the "mono-culture sheep" out there who think this is not a big deal well...... Ask a Jewish person or a Muslim Person or even a Japanese person and even a Native American what their culture means to them. This is just as insulting as Native Americans being played by White people in the old Hollywood Westerns!

coltg
coltg

I don't read the ultimate univerce comics, so can anyone tell me has Heimdall been potraied in those at all. If not then we can safely say a black Heimdall is merely the ultimate version of him, much like they did with Nick Fury. The main reason these movies are drawing from the ultimate univerce is simply because there is far less cannon to deal with, making for a far easyer time writing. However, if he has been potraied as white in the ultimates universe as well, then I fully agree this was a needless (however minor in the grand scheam) creative liberty. When directors take liberties just to take them we wind up with Fantastic Four 2 with the hemi powered fantasticar, cloud Galactus, and a Silver Surfer that is defeated by a common cosmic phenominon that his vary nature should have defended him aginst to say the least.

Cisco0524
Cisco0524

hey guys will Thor be CGI in the upcoming movie?

kreemarvel
kreemarvel

[color=seagreen] I don't remember if the race-based aspect has ever been present in the Marvel Universe version of the Norse pantheon, though.I would also comment on how you registered just for this post, but since you made me happy because you used a spelling very close to my prefered "Yahveh", I won't.Welcome to the boards, BTW.[/color]

shreds_not_dead
shreds_not_dead

Can we please stop with the whole 'films change things so deal with it' argument??? WE KNOW. We've had to put up with the stupid changes for years now. I think it's safe to say that the changes made in the transition between comics and movies has so far been extremely irritating. Which is why we're annoyed it's still happening.

david_andrews
david_andrews

Personally I just don't see why it has to be that big a deal. Ok I know "whitest of all gods" and such but ...films change things so you can't always say it WILL be this or itt WILL be that.and maybe they just won't mention being sif's brother or maybe it is because the Gods appear as we percieve them.I can't really say and bee 100 percent right I know this.But its done now so .... We'll just have to wait and see how this rolls out.

kreemarvel
kreemarvel

[quote@entombed Was there as much of an uproar when Nick Fury was changed from white to black?[/quote] [color=seagreen] My personal not-liking of [u] that[/u] particular change came from not liking the Ultimate Universe being given more media spotlight than the 616 Universe (just like X-Men Legends games use visuals based on Ultimate).But since Mr. Jackson is a great actor, I soon let it pass.About Heimdall, remember, he could even be painted completely white, too (not "white-skin" color, but "white-white"). That would create an interesting visual effect regardless of the actor's ethnicity.[/color]

jakobys
jakobys

[quote:c10346967f="Lord Zelenerth"][quote@King-Namor Yeah I'm liking the casting of this movie.[/quote] Yes casting Idris Elba is a perfect fit for the "whitest of the gods." I have other great casting decisions you'll like such as Jason Biggs as Buddha, Jackie Chan as Jesus and Paris Hilton as Muhammad.[/quote] I agree... In the asgardian mythologt he is known to be "The whitest of all gods" unless Branagh is trying to male a pun out of it...Correct me also If I am mistaken but isn't Heimdall in the comics the brother of Sif, you cast a white female and then an black male as her biological brother... WTF...

SuperKyle
SuperKyle

What it is for me is the culture behind it. The THOUSANDS of years behind it. As for Thor gaining flight and other things well yeah, a myth can build upon itself and sometimes to a silly degree. That is a good point though. I just don't see the need to alter this aspect of the culture. Its not mine to alter and it just doesn't even seem logical. As if there isn't someone who could play the part.Seriously, Cpt. America could definitely be a black man, black men are certainly American, Iron Man even, but we're talking about NORSE Gods here. Not a Norse beggar, heck that wouldn't even sound right from that time.... this is all just so whacky. I just hate a histroric culture of any kind being messed with. I think the clearest WTF would be a White Samurai from feudal Japan, just weird, like this, just doesn't make sense to do, we have excellent actors of all races to portray that part the best it can be.I do wish Idris well though on this, I hope he's not thrown off his game trying to play it up for all this balleyhoo.Peace to all - Black White, Cuban or Asian :)

entombed
entombed

I sincerely doubt anyone here is a/being racist, we're all just Fanboys and hate to see something we love changed by outsiders (Hollywood) who don't really have a true appreciation for it. It's like when a band you like gets signed to a major label and everyone and their brother jumps on the band-wagon or when Kevin Smith made Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back and all the jocks and cheerleaders suddenly loved all of his movies. Was there as much of an uproar when Nick Fury was changed from white to black? I personally thought that worked out for the better especially when he resembles Sam L. Jackson (the original B.A.M.F.) and also because it gave the character a new dynamic that was refreshing. I was a little peeved when I heard they changed Heimdall by casting a black actor to portray him at first, but not because they cast a black actor to play his role, because they (Hollywood/ the outsiders) changed one of my favorite characters from the Thor books and that's all it boils down to. Someone who jumped on the comic-book-movie bandwagon, because they're suddenly a hot, big money property changed something that us (the Fanboys) hold dear, but hopefully it will turn out to be a great movie like Ironman was. My only reservations about it are the actor playing Thor and what Mjolnir will look like, I'm hoping forthe traditional hammer style Mjolnir and not that hideous axe-hammer renditon of Mjolnir.

chulo313
chulo313

im all for titus pullo being volstagg

shreds_not_dead
shreds_not_dead

I just think it's a slippery slope man! You start making changes for the hell of it and then you look back and oops, deadpool now has his mouth sewn shut and is shooting lasers from his eyes.

kashube157
kashube157

Thanks man glad to be here. First off let me ask you guys why it matters that he is a black guy? Were you the same immature fools who got pissed when Starbuck and Boomer were cast as women in BSG? I am a "Black guy" and I love Thor (he and Luke Cage are my favorite Marvel heroes in that order) and I don't pick up his issues and think, "Damn there's no black guys in it" and put it down, and I'd like to believe that there are no other "Black guys" who would do that either so this "Pandering to minorities" line of thought is just stupid. Ole Kenny-B really liked Mr. Elba and cast him because he thought he would bring something to the part, and I am inclined to believe that that some thing was not "Flava". I seem to remember a thor issue that said the gods appear as you would envision them... meaning their outward appearance is not fixed. Thor was a big redhead lummox in the mythology. He also couldn't fly, he had two sons and wore gloves to catch his hammer bcuz it was too hot when lightning struck it. What I'm trying to say is it is artistic freedom what makes this kind of thing interesting in the first place, why not let the artist be interesting?

shreds_not_dead
shreds_not_dead

[quote:fa797baf78="david andrews"]Twil be swayed guys so stop being closet racist about it all.[/quote] Oh you've got us there. It's all about the racism, guys. To be honest, i don't even know who this 'Heimdall' is. On a more serious note though, i think that this whole argument is pretty much down to how important you find historical/literary accuracy. If you don't mind too much, this probably won't phase you at all. And that's fine. Personally, i prefer not to see unnecessary changes to my favourite characters, as i find it detracts from the authenticy and can get a confusing. That's my opinion.But then again, i'm probably just a closet racist right? How could i have never noticed...

david_andrews
david_andrews

Dudes it REALLY doesn't matter that much.Its not REAL. Its an interpritation guys.Things will get swayed deal with it it shouldn't even matter.The comics are BASED on mythology not literal.And the movie is based on the comics.Twil be swayed guys so stop being closet racist about it all.I'm not bothered getting into how wrong this thread even is now as it WILL most likely be closed.

Balonius
Balonius

:grider: Sorry but some changes are necessary and some are just retarded. There is no reason for a black dude to be playing a Norse god. Period. I don't care if he's the greatest actor ever, it doesn't matter. I also don't see why his having a British accent has any relevance since Scandinavians don't have British accents whatsoever. An Asian dude playing a Viking warrior, also retarded; not as much so but retarded. Now, a Japanese Asian dude playing a Viking warrior, that is retarded. If they wanted any realism whatsoever they would at least pic a Mongolian actor or someone who could be a nomad from the Steppes of Russia-type warrior. Someone like that would be more likely to meet up with Vikings. That said, diversity for diversity's sake is stupid and pandering. It destroys credibility and pushes fans away. I like authenticity in my superhero movies. Pretty much all of the X-Men movies sucked. Most of Wolverine sucked. Dr. Doom in FF4 = Incredible amounts of suck. In any of these cases there were changes made that were completely unnecessary and did nothing but ruin what could have been awesome movies. Why does Deadpool have to shoot frickin' lasers from his eyes? Did the producers think that would sell tickets? Stupid changes like that pretty much killed that movie for me. I hope they don't do stuff like that with Thor. Now I'd never say that casting Elba as Heimdall is on that level but it shows that the casting directors are ready to make pointless changes. What else could they change. Why cast a black man anyway? What is the point in specifically choosing him? Are there no other actors out there that would look and act the part better? That seems pretty unlikely to me. I think it would be better if Dr. Blake were black than a Norse god. That would at least make sense but don't alter mythology. It's bad enough they made Loki a woman, I mean, jesus.

shreds_not_dead
shreds_not_dead

Ah that's what i thought you might have meant. Things are obviously going to get changed for the movie, because as you said it is an (underlined for emphasis) interpretation. But that still doesn't explain why they would make a specific change. You don't go messing around with the look established characters for the hell of it, or just because it's expected. Gotta be some motivation for it right?

ssbn401
ssbn401

[quote@shreds_not_dead I really don't think a big ol' guy in a silly helmet would've worked too well on film, so i was a little relieved they did that actually. Heimdall was actually called 'the white god' though. So i'm starting to assume they did this for irony. I'm not angry at the decision, just confused and vaguely irritated. Also, i'm curious. Ssbn401, you said you'd be upset if Heimdall was black in the comics. Why so?[/quote] Sorry, I should've been more clear.I think I'd be upset if Heimdall was CHANGED to being black in the comics because he's already been established as white there. It's not a fundamental part of his character (I don't think so, anyway), but that's how he is portrayed. It would be like suddenly changing Luke Cage to white in 2009 after years of him being black. If Heimdall was originally black in the comics, I'd have no problem with that. People are reacting as if the film is going to make Marvel change the comic Heimdall from white to black, which is not the case. The Film version of Thor is an [u] interpretation[/u] of the comics, so if in that interpretation they change Heimdall from white to black, I think it's okay in the long run as long as the actor is good - which Elba is. Now, if they butcher his character like they did to Doom in the Fantastic Four movies, then we'll have a real problem.

shreds_not_dead
shreds_not_dead

I really don't think a big ol' guy in a silly helmet would've worked too well on film, so i was a little relieved they did that actually. Heimdall was actually called 'the white god' though. So i'm starting to assume they did this for irony. I'm not angry at the decision, just confused and vaguely irritated. Also, i'm curious. Ssbn401, you said you'd be upset if Heimdall was black in the comics. Why so?

kreemarvel
kreemarvel

[quote@DrizztDuorden and don't forget turning Galactus into a giant planet-eating cloud haha[/quote] [color=seagreen] Don't get me started on the F4 movies!I can see why they would change Galactus thusly, so I understand that one (even though I wish I could have seen a Kirby-esque god on film).What I dislike is what they did to Doom in the first movie. He is supposed to be this super intelligent and arrogant man who either gets his own powers or at least has to work on how to steal them from someone else (like he tried to do in the second movie).Being a [u] capitalist[/u] businessman who gets his powers by luck ruined his character for me.I'd have loved to see Victor in the first movie as an enemy to Richards but without super powers, and be built into Doctor Doom for the second movie. Even as a "normal" human, he would have been quite a threat.But well, we're supposed to be talking about Heimdall.[/color]

kreemarvel
kreemarvel

[quote@ssbn401 If they made Heimdall black in the comics, I would be upset. But this is a film....Movies will inevitably change things about their source material (they changed EVERYTHING about Toad in X-Men the movie, and that film was still fine).[/quote] [color=seagreen] Although they did change Toad in the comics to be more like the one in the movies (and tried to do it with Mystique).Since X-Men Forever tried to give an explanation for this, and one that is believable in the context of the MU, I am kind of okay with that, as long as they don't do it everytime a character gets more recognition thanks to a film.[/color]

DrizztDuorden
DrizztDuorden

[quote@kreemarvel [quote@shreds_not_dead If you want to point out to everyone how very UN-racist you are, then well done. By some account you have vaguely succeeded. But please try to show more respect to well-established characters that real fans do actually care about. This goes for you as well, Marvel.[/quote] [color=seagreen] Man, you are being respectful, but look at those others who simply registered to say how "bad" this is. And see which "side" started mouthing the "F word" and talking about boycotts.Even Zelenerth's comparatively harmless post in the first page is full of smart-aleck attitude when he could have better explained his point of view in that post, instead of having to do it as a reply to someone else, when "hostilities" had already started.Besides, will people enjoy the movie less because of this casting choice? If he were an awful actor, or if he did a weak Heimdall, perhaps. But I think it is too early to know "this movie will suck" (it won't, it'll rock, LOL).I still believe there are things that change a character more than this (or giving them only four fingers). Making the Baroness a good girl who was brainwashed into doing bad things is one. Making Cage white when he is a voice of people who will no longer tolerate being treated poorly because of their color would be another. Making Johnny Storm not sexy would be the worst!See? Heimdall portrayed by a black actor is not that bad now.[/color] [/quote] and don't forget turning Galactus into a giant planet-eating cloud hahaseriously, the reactions to this casting choice are getting pretty ridiculous. I've been reading Thor since I was 5, and after 23 years he's still one of my favorite characters of all time. This movie is going to be awesome, the casting choices are great and Elba is going to deliver the goods... trust me :)

ssbn401
ssbn401

[quote@shreds_not_dead [quote@ssbn401 [quote@IDGDI You people f*****g kidding ,right?A am cool with a black Nick Fury ...but1.A BLACK NORSE GOD??????2.Where is the f*****g logic here?3.How can you all support this &*$%#?Only a Complete Idiot who doesn't care about the comic , the myth and the story would buy this crap.Hey , what about a white T'Challa ? ... A white African king would be great for the Black Panther fans. Аnswer my questions please don't hide behind cliches or stupid theories , ssbn401 try again to defend the rape of our favorite comics. I want sooooooooooooooo much to read real arguments this time.[/quote] You're asking me for real arguments when you don't have any of your own. How is "where is the f*****g logic here?" an argument? And comparing Heimdall being black to Black Panther being white is a totally bogus comparison. T'Challa is the leader of an African nation, for crying out loud. Making T'Challa white would be like making Shang-Chi the master of Kung Fu white.My argument is this: yes, there have never been Norse gods shown as different ethnicities or nationalities, but it's never ACTUALLY been said that they are all white by nature. [/quote] Well actually yes, yes it has. Heimdall is described as 'the palest of the gods.' So unless you're now going to argue that every norse god is black and Heimdall is just slightly less so, I think we can safely assume you are dead wrong on that count. You also disagreed with the comparison to T'challa, and I see where you're coming from with that. A strong part of T'challa's character is being the king of an African nation. But what if we changed the analogy to Luke Cage? He's from New York, not Africa, but I think we can assume that he would never be cast as a white man in a movie. And don't try and tell me that being black is a bigger part of Cage's character than Heimdall's being Norse. Because THAT is racist. I wouldn't expect to see Luke Cage as a white man, so why is it so wrong for me not to expect to see Heimdall as a white man? If you want to point out to everyone how very UN-racist you are, then well done. By some account you have vaguely succeeded. But please try to show more respect to well-established characters that real fans do actually care about. This goes for you as well, Marvel.[/quote] Haha, I love the ridiculous assumption made at the beginning of your post. You read my mind - I was most definitely going to say that all the Norse Gods are black and Heimdall only less so. How could you know me so well? Sheesh.Anyway, if it's said in some canonical place that Heimdall is the "whitest of the gods" then I'll accede that point. But I still think that it doesn't matter. I still maintain that in the movie medium, a relatively minor change such as this will do little to no damage to the novel or the character. If they made Heimdall black in the comics, I would be upset. But this is a film. I don't think that the director purposefully chose Elba to make his own little change and to tick off hardcore fans. I think he did it because it's Hollywood and he cast the person who he thought fit the role. And if he changes his casting based off of this small outcry, then we should all be worried that a director who is so easily influenced and swayed is directing Thor.I see the point with Luke Cage. But changing his ethnicity would be similar to changing Captain America's ethnicity. Technically, there's nothing wrong there because neither character is defined by their ethnicity, but it is changing character personality, etc. If they made Apollo black in a Hercules movie, I still think it would be okay because race still isn't the defining characteristic, his godhood is (it would be a little odd, just like Heimdall, but still okay if the actor is good).Movies will inevitably change things about their source material (they changed EVERYTHING about Toad in X-Men the movie, and that film was still fine). Get used to it, stop complaining, and be glad that Thor is getting the best cast of ANY COMIC BOOK MOVIE MADE UP TO THIS POINT. (I may be young compared to some people on these boards, but I'm 24 and have been reading comics since I was in fourth grade - Thor is still my favorite Marvel character, and somehow I can take this without having an aneurysm. Maybe I'm the only one, though. You guys should call your cardiologists.)

shreds_not_dead
shreds_not_dead

I'm sure it's going to be great, but i just wonder what the hell Marvel are thinking sometimes. You'd think there'd be a reason for a change like this, and you've just got to wonder what it is. Of course it's pretty harmless in the grand scheme of things to cast a black Heimdall, but i think to just make changes like this when it's obvious fans will be annoyed is a bit disrespectful, the fans AND the character. I don't think Luke Cage is as great as you say either, he was a hero 'for hire' after all.

kreemarvel
kreemarvel

[quote@shreds_not_dead If you want to point out to everyone how very UN-racist you are, then well done. By some account you have vaguely succeeded. But please try to show more respect to well-established characters that real fans do actually care about. This goes for you as well, Marvel.[/quote] [color=seagreen] Man, you are being respectful, but look at those others who simply registered to say how "bad" this is. And see which "side" started mouthing the "F word" and talking about boycotts.Even Zelenerth's comparatively harmless post in the first page is full of smart-aleck attitude when he could have better explained his point of view in that post, instead of having to do it as a reply to someone else, when "hostilities" had already started.Besides, will people enjoy the movie less because of this casting choice? If he were an awful actor, or if he did a weak Heimdall, perhaps. But I think it is too early to know "this movie will suck" (it won't, it'll rock, LOL).I still believe there are things that change a character more than this (or giving them only four fingers). Making the Baroness a good girl who was brainwashed into doing bad things is one. Making Cage white when he is a voice of people who will no longer tolerate being treated poorly because of their color would be another. Making Johnny Storm not sexy would be the worst!See? Heimdall portrayed by a black actor is not that bad now.[/color]

shreds_not_dead
shreds_not_dead

[quote@ssbn401 [quote@IDGDI You people f*****g kidding ,right?A am cool with a black Nick Fury ...but1.A BLACK NORSE GOD??????2.Where is the f*****g logic here?3.How can you all support this &*$%#?Only a Complete Idiot who doesn't care about the comic , the myth and the story would buy this crap.Hey , what about a white T'Challa ? ... A white African king would be great for the Black Panther fans. Аnswer my questions please don't hide behind cliches or stupid theories , ssbn401 try again to defend the rape of our favorite comics. I want sooooooooooooooo much to read real arguments this time.[/quote] You're asking me for real arguments when you don't have any of your own. How is "where is the f*****g logic here?" an argument? And comparing Heimdall being black to Black Panther being white is a totally bogus comparison. T'Challa is the leader of an African nation, for crying out loud. Making T'Challa white would be like making Shang-Chi the master of Kung Fu white.My argument is this: yes, there have never been Norse gods shown as different ethnicities or nationalities, but it's never ACTUALLY been said that they are all white by nature. [/quote] Well actually yes, yes it has. Heimdall is described as 'the palest of the gods.' So unless you're now going to argue that every norse god is black and Heimdall is just slightly less so, I think we can safely assume you are dead wrong on that count. You also disagreed with the comparison to T'challa, and I see where you're coming from with that. A strong part of T'challa's character is being the king of an African nation. But what if we changed the analogy to Luke Cage? He's from New York, not Africa, but I think we can assume that he would never be cast as a white man in a movie. And don't try and tell me that being black is a bigger part of Cage's character than Heimdall's being Norse. Because THAT is racist. I wouldn't expect to see Luke Cage as a white man, so why is it so wrong for me not to expect to see Heimdall as a white man? If you want to point out to everyone how very UN-racist you are, then well done. By some account you have vaguely succeeded. But please try to show more respect to well-established characters that real fans do actually care about. This goes for you as well, Marvel.

kreemarvel
kreemarvel

[color=seagreen] Oh, and I think this site is a very nice place to come and post about anything.There are a lot of reasons I could mention for people to register here and post.I think it is sad some people still count racism as one of those reasons, though, judging by the low (as low as "1") post counts of the anti-Elba posters in this thread.[/color]

kreemarvel
kreemarvel

[color=seagreen] BTW, is it strange that I have more issues with the Super Hero Squad designs having only four fingers in each hand than I have with a black man cast as Heimdall?I'm ready to give up and give the SHS a try, since it seems fun. I think I'll end up buying their video game soon, LOL.And I think Thor will rock! Have at thee![/color]

kreemarvel
kreemarvel

[color=seagreen] As a strong man watching over Asgard against foreign threats, I've always thought of Heimdall as "physically imposing",That's the first thing I'd notice about him, so I think Elba fits the character well.Besides, as other people have said, it may not even be obvious his skin is black in the movie, since, well, we have not seen anything about his character's look. They may have planned to paint his skin totally white, or have the universe be seen as we get a close up to his face.However, because of all the people complaining, I'd like them to leave his features and black skin very visible, even if they had other things planned, if only to show those people that, in the end, his ethnicity did not matter.[/color]

rdarker
rdarker

<-------- Black Guy Speaking1st I gotta say if we all band together and tell Marvel NOT to cast this (talented actor) in an NORSE role there would be no offense. I call no racism, just plain sense. you don't see me auditioning for the part of Captain America, or Casper. Get real Marvel. Even Vin "Where the hell has he been lately" Diesel would fit the bill. Get DiNorfrio, old yeah, but he's big and a great actor. Get Mickey Rourke! Oh wait, he's in Iron Man 2... Get Daniel Craig, get that tall/quasi female dude from 300.We need to tell Marvel Hell no to this! Way to stay true to the fans. What, is Stan on his death bed already?

ssbn401
ssbn401

[quote@IDGDI You people f*****g kidding ,right?A am cool with a black Nick Fury ...but1.A BLACK NORSE GOD??????2.Where is the f*****g logic here?3.How can you all support this &*$%#?Only a Complete Idiot who doesn't care about the comic , the myth and the story would buy this crap.Hey , what about a white T'Challa ? ... A white African king would be great for the Black Panther fans. Аnswer my questions please don't hide behind cliches or stupid theories , ssbn401 try again to defend the rape of our favorite comics. I want sooooooooooooooo much to read real arguments this time.[/quote] You're asking me for real arguments when you don't have any of your own. How is "where is the f*****g logic here?" an argument? And comparing Heimdall being black to Black Panther being white is a totally bogus comparison. T'Challa is the leader of an African nation, for crying out loud. Making T'Challa white would be like making Shang-Chi the master of Kung Fu white.My argument is this: yes, there have never been Norse gods shown as different ethnicities or nationalities, but it's never ACTUALLY been said that they are all white by nature. Add that to the fact that they are gods and can come in many forms (as they have done in comics - they take on different guises from time to time). Add to that the fact that this is a movie and things are naturally going to change in that medium. Look at Spiderman the movie - sure, they didn't change his ethnicity, but they changed SO SO MANY details and comic fans can still enjoy it (Spiderman I and II, anyway). Plus (and I said this before), Heimdall is a minor character. They aren't making Thor black, folks...it's Heimdall. A very cool but very supporting character (he's not even in the Warriors Three, who will get much more screen time than him, I'll wager). It would be like making Hephaestus black in a Marvel Hercules movie...so what??? And people who try to justify not being upset at an Asian Hogun are giving completely self-serving justifications. "Hogun's mustache seems Asian...I always thought of the Norse gods as gods over every northern nation in Europe/Asia" - I'm calling BS on that. How would you explain Mikaboshi then? Or the fact that Russia covers the northern part of Asia, not China, Mongolia, or any other Asian nation? An Asian Hogun is just the same as a black Heimdall, so you can't accept one and call the other blasphemy.And let's not forget the fact that Marvel gods are VERY DIFFERENT than their real life "equivalents." The Marvel Norse gods are based on the real version of Norse gods, but if you want to get upset because of realistic things like who worshipped them, then let's get into how many changes marvel made to Thor, Odin, Loki, and virtually every other major character in the Thor world. Come on, folks.Elba won't destroy the character or the integrity of the Norse Gods. It would be different if they cast Tracy Morgan as Heimdall. Then I would be outraged. But Elba is a good character actor, he's a big guy (over 6 feet), and he's British like most of the others cast. He'll fit right in. Thor is my favorite comic/character in Marvel, and I can easily reconcile myself to this choice. Why is it so difficult for you?

entombed
entombed

I don't think anyone here is trying to be racist, they just want the story to be faithful to the books, like everyone hopes for all the other Marvel movies. Of course it's not verbatim Norse Mythology, it's a comic book. But when Scandinavians worhshipped these gods they more than likely had no idea Africa existed. And when the Thor comic character was created it was a completely different era of society then we live in today. I have no doubt Idris Elba will do a great job portraying Heimdall, it only distracts from what everyone knows from the books and what fans have been used to for so long. I'm more skeptical of the guy they cast as Thor ruining the movie then I am that Heimdall is now black because Idris is a proven actor, there's no doubt he will be great, I just hope the rest of the movie is.

IgnorantSavage
IgnorantSavage

Why does everything have to be about racism? "men fear a black planet" or whatever that guy said? Come on guys, I thought we were past all this crap. But yeah, having a Norse God be black will totally ruin that whole "suspension of disbelief" thing that every movie needs. Why? Because Norse Gods aren't and never were black. I have nothing against Idris Elba but that suspension is pretty easily broken. Hogun being asian is more believable because 1) There are Asians from northern lands, even if not necessarily Scandinavia2) His dress, beard/mustache, and whathaveyou all have asian influences and always have That, and I kinda think of the Norse Gods as the North Gods, not just the Scandinavian Gods (although historically...) And I may have gotten sidetracked again. Anywho... There is no Cow Level!!!

robbenurl
robbenurl

This is completely absurd. A black guy can not be a norse god. How stupid is that? It's like putting a white guy to play an african god. Don't tell me this is a movie and anything is possible. First you have an aussie playing Thor and now a black man playing Heimdall. What's next? Whoppi Goldberg as the enchantress???This is gonna suck.I wanna see vikings, not some guys from the 'hood.

Titus_PulloHolku
Titus_PulloHolku

I have always said this....there are alot of Thor-fans that are undercover racists. How can Odin claim he created man but have no god looking like any other race but white? This is a smart move by Marvel and it brings depth to the character. Idris is black...but his accent is british because he was born over there. Please people don't try to hide behind I know nothing of Norse Mythology or Thor comics. Because honestly alot of crap Marvel uses directly contradicts true Norse Mythology. If they casted Thor as black or Odin I could see the compliants. If Odin created man of all colors...then there should be gods in his realm that are that color. Public Enemy said it best..." A Fear of a Black Planet".

entombed
entombed

X-gambit006, Heimdahl is a God not some dude that Thor might have met while out wandering the world and offered him the job of watching over the rainbow bridge to Asgard. Hogun being played by an Asian actor isn't that far fethched to me because I always thought that the armor he wore made him look more like Attila the Hun than any Viking. But the fact that they cast Anthony Hopkins as Odin is strange, granted he is a great actor but this isn't Beowulf where everything is rendered in CG so I'm betting they're going to have to do some fancy stuff with his wardrobe and the camera angles to make him appear taller.

entombed
entombed

Idris Elba is a great actor and I thought he was awesome in RockNRolla but casting a black actor as Norse God just doesn't work. Ray Stevenson would have been a much wiser choice. It worked for the Kingpin in that horrible Daredevil movie but it's just not believable in this movie. Congrats Branagh you just ****ed up a highly anticipated movie for alot of fans.

IDGDI
IDGDI

You people f*****g kidding ,right?A am cool with a black Nick Fury ...but1.A BLACK NORSE GOD??????2.Where is the f*****g logic here?3.How can you all support this ****?Only a Complete Idiot who doesn't care about the comic , the myth and the story would buy this crap.Hey , what about a white T'Challa ? ... A white African king would be great for the Black Panther fans. Аnswer my questions please don't hide behind cliches or stupid theories , ssbn401 try again to defend the rape of our favorite comics. I want sooooooooooooooo much to read real arguments this time.

X-gambit006
X-gambit006

Sure it doesnt match the comics or the myths, that is an issue. But elba is a serouisly great actor. I dont doubt that the vikings came into contact with african peoples (After all, there is evidence Erik the Red made it to america, why would getting to africa be a problem) It depends how they treat it, if they mention that in the movie it will make more sense