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Mimas2
Mimas2

You know what .... YOU ARE SOOOO RIGHT... Man of Action is from WB/DC  but more that half if not all have work on Marvel Comics for years... I find it hard to believe that they aren't aware of the Avengers history...  Ben 10 and all of its incarnations is a decently written show.. and Generator X despite its limited story lline was also decently written... What would be the point of Man of Action sabotaging Marvel animation?  Disney is telling them what to write, they are the ones signing their paychecks. I see your point, but lets just agree to disagree.

Mimas2
Mimas2

Ms Marvel was hot.. but I wasn't a fan of her red and black outfit... I liked the black (or blue) outfit with the lightning bolt down the front... Does anyone else have any comments on jharden4 well written and well thought out letter... What do you think Wotan135 Vegan70 pascus???

franksoto007
franksoto007

I agree 100%. AnD i hate that tHey did away with my favoriTe ms. Marvel!

jharden4
jharden4

Hey guys, it has been awhile. I noticed that no one has posted anything about the season finale of AA, and I am here to give my opinion about the season thus far. I will welcome any feedback but keep in mind as always, this is my opinion and my belief, just as I have respected everyone else's beliefs, please respect mine. That being said, I feel this whole reboot of the Avengers is pure garbage! The stories are lame as well as the pacing of the show. The characters are not the characters that I have read well before the first Avengers series, Avengers: United They Stand aired, and well after this series. I know some of you are fans of this animation, but to me it is utter garbage at best, it is rushed and the movements suck as I have stated before. But here is something that we all did not discuss fully was the main source of this mess. At first I... like a lot of folks have thought that Disney had a hand in this, however after doing some research and using some deductive reasoning I have came to the conclusion that this was all Marvel's doing. The reason being: Why would Disney tank a show (AEMH) that they have worked so hard with Marvel in airing, producing and promoting a show when they knew a movie adaption was coming within two years? Two: Disney does not seem to promote the new series as they did with AEMH, we use to see many rebroadcast from that series (AEMH), I have not seen that many for AA, if not the case then correct me if I am wrong. Three: I have read somewhere that the president of Marvel Television and Productions (And we all know who that is!) had an major role in this decision because that person in charge wanted shows that would connect with USM being Hulks : Agent of Smash and Avengers Assemble. Four: This person also lied about the production after the backlash with USM saying that this in an continuation of AEMH and that it would not be in the USM universe, and also It was said that this production ( As per on Man in Marvel in his article) was going to be the most expensive Marvel animated production to date and that a lot of care went into the production. Do you all feel that is the case, because I sure don't?!! Five: Why was the Marvel Block moved to an earlier time slot, in fact a time slot so early that if you do get up in time you would miss that show or the whole block all together because the show only aired once a week. Did Disney do that with AEMH? And the fact that no one on this board even bothered within the last few weeks to feel the need to even comment on the season finale! Either that tells me that many of you feel the exact way I do about this show or some of you are happy in where this show is going. Myself, I am totally disappointed and I will not be watching second season at all. If some agree fine, if not that fine also, again this is my belief and grief to bare and I will and cannot hold any malice to anyone that disagrees. Any constructive input will be appreciated, thank guys for hearing my rants, I look forward from hearing from you all.        

Mimas2
Mimas2

I hear that the Guardians of the Galaxy are getting their own animated series... I have a real problem with this group... because without Phyla Mar-Vell, Warlock, and Ronin,, this group power level sucks... Drax is nowhere near as powerful as he was before he went all blade wielding ninja death machine. and what about Quasar

legetre000
legetre000

Now i'v got to admit that the avengures assemble show's pretty boss i mean i'm a relly good avengures fan

and my favorate i would half to say Captin america


Mimas2
Mimas2

I happen to catch Marvel Universe yesterday morning and notice during one of their skits where they try to make real life out what happens in cartoons segment.. the interviewer (I have no idea what his names is) was talking about Hawkeye.. but here's the catch.. the Hawkeye they he was referring to was EMH version.. the classic look.. They showed what is like to blah blah blah, but what what I found interesting was that they only showed the EMH version of Hawkeye and not Avengers Assembly ..  they didn't even mention Avengers Assemble..  Maybe I'm just putting waaaaay to much into it.  Any thoughts people?????

jharden4
jharden4

You know the sad thing is, that no one from Marvel is either listening or if they are, can change this. I really believe that Disney has there hooks is this franchise so deep that the creators, writers and animators has to follow their guild lines. Why else would Marvel do a third season of Ultimate Spider-man and a second season of Hulk's AOS knowing how much the true fans hate these shows.

Wotan135
Wotan135

I was really missing The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes. I think it was one of the best Marvel series in recent times. Avengers Assemble series is OK, but better than nothing. I think that The Avengers: EMH did not have much solved end. After all everywhere still runs number of villains including undefeated Surtur. Also, I like hawkeye with classic costume, vision added to the party, Ms Marvel, etc.. Every episode had something perfect. Somewhere I saw a rough story of the third series. Adding scarlet witch and quicksilver, x-men and the occurrence of magneto (i like him;). I think the series could go back, there's a whole number of diverse characters (which may at any time add or remove in the run of the story, such as ant man), even in non-upgraded classic costumes. Please do mainly third series but if it were a fourth series no one would certainly not mind.

Bring Back The Avengers: EMH please!!

Mimas2
Mimas2

Episode 24 Crime and Circuses.  Another opportunity to expand this show and they failed miseralbly.. Throughout the entire episode we hear about how Hawkeye is a traitor to his original team   (The Circus of Crime which he actually never belonged to anyhow), and they spend all of 15 to 20 seconds in still backflashes about how that happened...  They could have at least gone in depth about what happened, but no.. and it all lead up to what. Another boring fight scene, give me a freakin break.  

mjab864
mjab864

disney needs to pack up and leave before they make things worse cause they always ruin everything besides they already own like ten companys anyways why do they come and mess things up here? why dont they go over to dc there movies suck anyways not to mentoin there shows i am really ticked off about that:[

vegan70
vegan70

As they've been rerun often in the last couple of weeks, the weaknesses are glaring.

I am so tired of the fighting over cookies or peanut butter.  Hawkeye is just annoying.  Falcon is ridiculous when his mother visits...wait, the whole episode was!  Dracula and Attuma as an enemy without more members that are directly relevant to said evil-doers...The last series was a good bit better.

blackwolfrunning
blackwolfrunning

hiya people, as much as I'm kinda loving this show. I do agree with you all, it lacks a great deal. While the animation has been improved a lot compared to EMH, however, there is no storyline and the characters are somewhat unrealistic (example: Odin) and undeveloped. I don't know about you guys, but this drives me nuts! Disney's grip on Marvel needs to be loosened. Dudes, just let Marvel do their thing, it tends to work better that way! Also, whoever decided it would be a good idea to stick Dracula and Hyperion in the Cabal needs to do a rain-check on their next dance, it's just not right. Lets hope that the next series will make the adjustments needed to live up to the quality of the previous show.

jharden4
jharden4

Hey Guys, I feel I have to comment on what I have seen so far on this show and there is some good and some bad. First off, to anyone who is a big fan of this show that is ok, but keep in mind that this is your opinion and I do not judge on that. Okay, that being said this is my opinion, this show is seriously lacking in many areas. the first area to me is the storyline and pacing of each episode. The pacing is to fast and the storylines are watered down along with the character development. The second is the animation which a lot of you are a fan of, but not me. The animation as I have stated before seems cheap and unimpressive, the characters movements seem stiff and at times move like there double jointed. The ratio  change is annoying as well and distracting. And must we see the same villains almost all the time, and what about the guest starring Avengers? That was the bad here is the good; there were at least four excellent episodes that was done so far which means that this show has some potential. I am a Avengers fan like a lot of people that is why we are so critical about the show, we what it to work. I really hope that Marvel makes some adjustments and improvements on the second season, and maybe keep Disney's influence at arms length, that is where I believe the major problem is. Again this just my opinion.

Mimas2
Mimas2

I  am a fan... I want this show to work... when it does I'll express my own feelings about I like about ... When it doesn't I'll express my own feeling about what I dislike about it...  

pascus
pascus

Like I mentioned before, I'm so surprised that these creators don't want a quality show that will win awards, like young justice 2 seasons and it's listed as top 3 best. justice league 2 or 3 awards. This show has the animation but the stories are empty. come on writers don't you want people talking about each episode after it goes off and drooling for the next one to come on? Don't you want you tube blowing up with comments about what they think will happen next? you have that chance now. the ENTIRE show is one looong episode, try breaking it where some go one way others go another and missions accomplished. Stark is waayyyy too arrogant, PLEASE SHUT HAWKEYE UP he is not comedy relief. he is the one that will punch someone in the face, who can take him serious when he makes such stupid so called humor.  come on writers you have no other real competition out there, you can really max this out and have viewers for life.  if cartoon network had not screwed up young justice, they too would have had viewers for life. I'm trying to be patient waiting for that turn around the corner. I see it everytime I see and episode of the cabal.  but then it flops with episodes like galactus (love galactus but 1 man and a planet explosion brings him down)  COME ON PEOPLE. falcons MOM? who cares..who cares? Bring it writers you have the ability I mean EMH!!! bring in MAN OF ACTION to write this. WHERRE IS HE?

Mimas2
Mimas2

Actually I thought that Galactus was seriously downplayed for this episode (AA episode 22). Only took Iron Man to defeat him... GALACTUS!!!  I really don't think so.. also before any more guest stars... lets see some new Avengers... this cast is getting tiresome.. where's Capt Marvel .. Scarlet Witch, Wasp, well they had Ant Man, but he acted like he'd never been on the team before...  ... boring

Voltzahlantihero
Voltzahlantihero

I have to say I enjoy this show. I thought EMH ended quite abruptly and a bit anticlimactic for my taste, although it did have me engaged in the story. But I have followed the marvel cartoons  and favorite comics since I was a little girl. I hope to see the silver surfer make a showing in this series or doctor strange and more of the FF. I like to see how they will integrate the Skrull and Kree, oh and the infinity gauntlet with Thanos. As a big fan of Galactus, I actually liked how they showed him in episode 22, I hope to see him coming back for more. Surly he will not be happy when he wakes up. I don't really care what people say about this show, I really do enjoy it. As an artist, the drawing style/animation is nice and I hope the series finishes strong with at least a second season. ;D 

Feike
Feike

The next episode will be on May 11, so that is a long time wait, shame/regrettably :(

KidAvenger
KidAvenger

& Of course The Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D.!

omarimidgette
omarimidgette

On season 2 please put War machine and Spider-man and X-Men wolverine and storm and gambit and jubliee and jean grey miss marvel and spider-woman Fantasic Four and red hulk and namor and black panter and new villians.

pascus
pascus

@franksoto007 aahh man i sooo miss her. i also miss wasp, cause she was always ready for a battle. loved that. and we cannot forget panther, he was just amazingly cool like that. falcon is ok but wayy up iron mans butt too much (fan boy). he is smart and all, but no real personality that makes him.....idk, tight.

Mimas2
Mimas2

@jharden4 Well said... I share you feelings about this charade... but even though its apples and oranges kinda thing... I do have to disagree with you about blaming Marvel for this fiasco... and mainly because all of the Marvel cartoons on disneyXD follow the same example: silly plots, fart jokes, no character development... buy other than that you hit the nail on the head... I had hoped that with the new season of Ultimate Spiderman that somethings would change... they have toned down the fourth wall breaking but not completely... its still unwatchable...I can't imagine Guardians being any better...

Mimas2
Mimas2

@jharden4 where did you hear that Hulk was getting a second season... Last I heard they set to cancel after the 26th episode... and it was Avengers and Spiderman were going on

pascus
pascus

@Wotan135 I agree I soooo agree. I cannot believe that spiderman has survived this long. it is so embarrassing and they seem not to even care. I think it's like JHARDEN said. avengers EMH story with this animation would be amazing, even though they have no idea on how to put a show together, they can do some action scenes. I'm torn, I would like the avengers to have another season but only if they are gonna act like they enjoy their work. the HULK series, gosh they had more cameos in the short time it was on than avengers has had all this time. they have so many to choose from ie. silver surfer, ff, daredevil,x men, etc etc. it's soo not that hard. shake it marvel get those talons out of your back and CREAAATE PEOPLE. work like your proud, work like you want your work noticed in a good way. mimas2i didn't know that hulk had 26 episodes at all.lolol they seemed to be cameoed out and story crashed. lol

Mimas2
Mimas2

@Wotan135 and if not EMH it least make Avengers Assemble continue with EMH's storyline.. and I remember seeing that rough story of the possible third season you're talking about ... it was on youtube.. and if they would have continued on with those stories ... Avengers would be right up there with Justice League instead of running neck and neck with Phineas and Ferb...  as to adding diverse characters... I wouldn't hold my breath... Whomever is going to be in the movie you'll most likely will see in the cartoon... Antman.. Wasp.. maybe Vision, Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch... I don't see Spiderman actually joining because like I said before they'll use that worn out excuse he has a team already and that he needs more experience... (The writers on this show are not really into shock value and changing the status quo. They'll just opt for the laziest cliche they can find). Hawkeye's classic costume needs to come back... but I will admit.. he did wear a costume similar to the one he wears on Avengers Assemble in Avengers 98-100 Vol 1.

Mimas2
Mimas2

@mjab864 Because Disney has a whole lotta money... And they could easily just say  we didn't get that way because we don't know what we're doing.  But two things Disney does have against them is that they have never had a successful dramatic comic book line and don't know squat about doing continuing stories.  And don't bring up Gargoyles, because eventually it sucked too.

pascus
pascus

I totally totally agree. Why is DRACULA EVEN IN THE SCENE anywayy? I hate how they played odin. We all hope they will regroup. And come correct. Back up disney..leave marvel alone let them create.

Mimas2
Mimas2

@jharden4  And it because of those 3 or 4 good episode is why I haven't completely given up on this show.. I'm glad that so many people are coming to realization that everything wrong with these show is Disney's influence... If only they would let Marvel stretch their wings and give the writers the creative leeway they need this show would could get back on track... and I know I may sound like I'm just repeating things I've said, but I just see this show slipping in cancelled. Ultron is supposed to be a new antagonist next season, voiced by the "Brain" Maurice La Marche, I'm not sure thats who I would've selected... EMH Ultron had the voice down pat.. Lets hope things will get better, if they don't add some women to the rouster  soon I hope more female fans start to protest. 

pascus
pascus

OH one more thing.  WHO OF YOU WRITERS THOUGHT THAT IT MADE SENSE THAT ODIN...ALL FATHER ODIN WOULD LAUGH AFTER GETTING HIT BY HULK?  the all father would have had a fit and probally blown their home and butts to kingdom come. Who would think that was a good idea?  it wasn't even close to being funny. in one word it was DUMB. and UNHEARD OF. why why would you do that, make him seem like a clown? WHY?

Mimas2
Mimas2

@pascus Bless you pascus... someone who really understands that this is what REAL marvel fans really want in animation....  But you have to understand that this "parody of an avengers cartoon" is DISNEY fault.  Earth's Mightiest Heroes was created before the hellish pairing of Marvel and Disney... thats why EMH was so good... and Avengers Assemble meet Phineas and Ferb...  As long as Disney has a foot in this and not give the writers some creative leeway its never going to get any better than this.   It sucks too, because Disney has the money to do it.. but they just don't care, they are catering to the LOWEST common denominator and lord knows that WE all know what that is...

Voltzahlantihero
Voltzahlantihero

@Mimas2  I agree with you there, the fan girl part of me was elated to see him show up in an episode, but I was not happy about how the episode played out. In the end I was more underwhelmed than satisfied (WTF, a planet blowing up wouldn't do much to Galactus at all). I also agree we need more avengers, importantly Ant Man and Wasp joining up. As well I would like to see not well known character guest appearances,  like Mockingbird, the Great Lake Avengers and may be the Inhumans. I do believe even though I have liked the show thus far, the creators really need to put more effort in story development and characters.

Mimas2
Mimas2

@Voltzahlantihero It's not bad.. it just not good ... and considering what that they had with Earth's Mightiest Heroes, and knowing that they had to change it because that's what mamma disney wanted makes it all the more unpalatable.  When Beware the Batman came out at first I hated it..as I watched it more the episodes tied together and it all made sense.. I love the show now...  I highly recommend it and also Batman's Son of the Batman with Damian Wayne... excellent movie...   I heard that Maurice LaMarche from Pinky and the Brain is going to voice Ultron next season... I not sure that's going to work.. but I'm still looking forward to it ...

jharden4
jharden4

@Mimas2 @jharden4  I truly believe that this was Marvel Animation/TV's call to make these shows that way, especially the president in charge of Marvel programing. But there is something else that bothers me about this show and that the fact that few Avengers villains are used in this show at all. Where are Kang, Baron Zemo, The Masters of Evil, The Master of the World, Count Nefaria to name a few? Only a person who have worked for DC comics for so long (hint, hint) would be oblivious of this rich history of the Avengers legacy of villains. Any thoughts on that.

jharden4
jharden4

@Mimas2 @jharden4 I read this somewhere online, but do not hold me to that, and I hope this is not true. However, giving the way that Disney keeps bad shows on I would not be a bit surprised.

pascus
pascus

@Mimas2 @jharden4 ---I have to agee with you both, especially mimas. But I think the animaton is amazingly nice. I love the way thor looks, his hammer,hawkeye arrows and bow,falcons wings etc. I draw a lot, whole lot, and this looks miles better than EMH. With EMH they looked flat,widow looked like a elementary school child drew her.BUT The stories,THE STORIES were amazing (first season). now it's reversed.  Why in the world would they not keep a computer voice for A COMPUTER? They can't be that far gone. If so then i'm done. don't make ulton sound like a normal human. Thor started out sounding like an Americanized Asgardan, they corrected that foolishness.  Back up Disney, Marvel was  a giant  long  before you came along, they know how to make it happen. leave marvel alone.

Mimas2
Mimas2

@pascus That's why I mention before that this incarnation of Avengers is starting feel more like a parody than the real thing so many things are out of character that its just ridiculous... here's to hoping things might change next season, I read that he's coming in next season.... One more thing... (I like that.. reminds me Uncle from Jackie Chan Adventures)... The whole Cabal thing even though it's makes the show a little more interesting.. how can they even have that many egos working together....

pascus
pascus

mimas2. wow i didn't even put that together. i was under the impression that marvel was with disney even with EMH.  For disney to be all about animation it's kinda clear they don't know how to step it up.  and when i read the avengers comicbooks they were kinda serious and enjoyed their work but they did it with skill some finese. yes we all know stark was arrogant but even he knew when to turn the leadership over to cap. WHERE IS BLACK PANTHER? WHERE IS WASP ( i loved her in EMH she was the APPROPRIATE comedy, she was ready to fight and beat up some bad guys.) they had personality that we could bond with. WHERE IS MAN OF ACTION??!!! he writes his butt off.  i don't know mimas2, maybe they will listen when they comeback off of this hiatis, because they obviously know how to do action scenes. i do applaud how they do the action (in certain episodes).  i love the action thats goes on,on the streets and homes. so i will give them that. but that is overshadowed by the drab dialoge.  COME ON DISNEY WE WANT TO TLK ABOUT THIS THE NEXT DAY, WE WANT TO POST THINGS ON F.B. (well good stuff) ABOUT WHAT WE EXPECT ON THE FOLLOWING EPISODE. you should be reaching for awards and notariety.. why would you not want this? why? aren't you wondering why your show isn't blowin up more? or why people are not commenting all over the place about your show?  COME ON REEACH.  you can do better than this.

Voltzahlantihero
Voltzahlantihero

@Mimas2 I have to say, there is a lot of lost potential in the show, character and writing wise(we all know they have so much material to pull from a fail to implement it or even develop it thoroughly). I have found at least a few moments that get me to see a  little flicker of hope for it's future. I hope it just gets here sooner than later and not burning toxic fumes like their new Hulk cartoon. 

I'm not a much of a fan for DC, but I wouldn't mind to give batman another go. He's the only character I like out of the DC bunch (or DC over all), since the original cartoon and Batman Beyond. 

Mimas2
Mimas2

@jharden4 @Mimas2Well if they do a second season.. they need to totally re-do it or just chuck it out the window

pascus
pascus

@Mimas2 @pascus  @Mimas2 @pascus  YES YES!!!! those huge egoes..working together. Maybe skull,modok and attuma, but not dracula or the others. Thanks for giving me the heads up about man of action whew!!! The cabal soooo out matches the avengers power it's pitiful. Who thought that was a good idea? WHO? maybe the person who thought ODIN ALL FATHER gettin hit by the hulk was good idea. Anyway I'm hopin this mini hiatus will rearrange some things,and get this in a place they can be proud of. I can't imagine putting so much work into this and not shooting for people to drool over my work. I sooooo wish I could work there not even permanent just guide them into what we want as fans. The animation dept. of marvel needs so much help, I could totally get them to pop off. Their animated movies SUCK soo bad, it's embarrassing. Live action movies are obviously off the charts but animation dept is nothing less than sad. DC is killing it with animated movies. If marvel steps up their animation dept, they could RULE THE WORLD!!!!!!! I could totally help them with that.       just sayin.

jharden4
jharden4

@Mimas2 @jharden4  I was right unfortunately, they are bringing this mess back for a second season. Look on Comics Continuum site for the info. 

pascus
pascus

@jharden4 @Mimas2  MIMAS idk I think or hope that they have listened to what has been said and revamp thia potentially amazing show. I think season 2 will step it up a bit and maybe shut up Hawkeye a bit, have a real story, and have some pride in what they are putting out. I know,i know I'm hoping for a lot, but. if we  don't have hope then we are all  doomed.lolol.

I have to admit that I enjoyed the episodes with the cabal. because it had a purpose, it was good and when cap finally took over as leader things started to make sense. so maybe season 2 will surprise us with quality and substance, then we will finally have another show to watch because right now there is NOTHING.

jharden4
jharden4

@pascus @jharden4 @Mimas2 Your right, and I share your concerns also. I can say this, it looks like the animation has improved slightly, however that does not change my opinion of the show. I read months back that Marvel animation was going to do a season 2 of Hulk's ASM and I also said that giving the way Loeb and the gang have been operating that this was going to happen. It seems he (Loeb) want's everything to coincide with that Ultimate Spider-man garbage, which is sad for the true fans of Marvel comics.