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Tigersrox01
Tigersrox01

Will there be a gaG reel for season 2?

Shadow-616
Shadow-616

Since I don't have a TV subscription I've been purchasing AOS on Amazon.  It's OK, because I get each episode the day after it airs.  I wonder if Marvel will have Agent Carter available under the same deal.


PS:  The scene where Skye breaks out of the cocoon and reveals her power in one flash was great!


Steel Toes
Steel Toes

#TRIPLIVES C ' mon JOIN THE movement!

ads4169
ads4169

Hi people,

Can anybody tell me when will episode #11 air? Cause the airing date on some of the sites is of March 2015, why so late?

vibranium63
vibranium63 member

Goodbye Skye. Hello Daisy Johnson aka " QUAKE ". AWESOME !!! It's about time our team gets a supercharged human or INHUMAN.

skimby123
skimby123

yes very true Bruce lee was a great fighter fast and skilled but very strong and also used weapons, boxers are very strong and skilled for there size,then can defeat most people larger than them because of there skills. But i see Agent May fighting people twice her size and with the same training i say don't insult my intelligence. Think of Bruce lee as a MMA fighter he would do great on his weight class but in the higher weights no,but give him a weapon and i would say Bruce Lee wins against nearly anyone.

JosOLantern
JosOLantern

What d'y'all suppose is Bobbi's secret that she told Mack to keep on the downlow?

JosOLantern
JosOLantern

Well now that it is a sure thing that the Kree are involved and that city/temple must be Attilan or some other Inhuman dwelling...I like that it is now Agents of SHIELD that is taking the lead in events that will actually affect the larger MCU. I wonder if we will start seeing Terrigan Mist? But then, where art Black Bolt or fair maiden Medusa?

skimby123
skimby123

yes agent May never seems to lose a fight. Martial arts a great but size and strength matter, A lion will always defeat a cheetah in a fight because it is bigger and stronger despite the cheetah being faster and more agile.

kldsjfaljkflkdsj
kldsjfaljkflkdsj

Why would the GH formula, since its from an ancient Kree, make people draw a map of Attilan  when the Kree and Inhumans are to mostly different race. It would make more sense from either the map leads to the blue side of the moon or if the GH formula used Inhuman blood.

waghu1234
waghu1234

i wanna become a shield member

WYGUY42
WYGUY42

Fitz better get back to normal by the end of the season. he seems to be getting better… and has to

shmeets
shmeets

Kyle is so flipping great in episode 8. Having an actor of his ability present just elevates the entire show.

Ostariol
Ostariol

One thing about S.H.I.E.L.D; it should not be a spy agency. Who is it spying for? The US government? So all the adventures in the first season is basically S.H.I.E.L.D spying on other countries, violating international borders? Good Guys (tm) don't violate international rules, terrorists do! 



skimby123
skimby123

I really enjoy the show but there is one flaw. Agent May never seems to loose a fight is she an alien because she seems to be able to defeat anyone including people with equal skill and who are much bigger than her.This is insulting to the intelligence of the viewer. Will this fantasy ever end.

Ghostrider73_
Ghostrider73_

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JosOLantern
JosOLantern

@Steel Toes I dunno...when you fall apart into a pile of burnt ashes...no bueno. Sucky thing is that it looks like he survived the Terrigen Mist, but when he knocked over the Diviner, some of the pieces impaled him...and I guess he wasn't worthy and died-ed. I'm bummed that they killed him off. 

Murrieta21
Murrieta21

@ads4169 It will be in march unfortunately when the next episode airs.  supposedly its because they want to see if agent carter will be a hit and so they are trying to give agent carter its best chance that way.  I also have a feeling that we'll get some back-story in agent carter too that will tie into AOS.  If you payed attention last year, a lot of shows started late too.  Some were in February while others were in March.  its becoming an unfortunate trend on tv shows.  

wsouth
wsouth

@vibranium63 unfortunately its network TV. So you know what we're going to get? 2 years of Sky not being able to use her powers correctly. Sky accidentally hurting someone and then stomping off yelling "I wish this never happened to me!" In one comic I remember Daisy stopping a bad guy by making an earth quake go off in his brain. Do you think we're getting that Daisy? Nope. We will get the neutered Daisy.

JosOLantern
JosOLantern

@vibranium63  At least Skye-Daisy kept her human appearance...can't say the same for Raina...who looks lie she may have grown some whiskers

M950
M950

@vibranium63 Are you making reference to ep 10? If so hold back until everyone has seen it, no spoilers or post as spoiler alert, some of us don't get to watch it until we get home later.

ablackraptor
ablackraptor member

@skimby123 But by the same token, May ALSO uses weapons whenever she's up against those people twice her size, so you're just giving more logic to May's skill here. 

Not to mention, there's a difference between 'training' and 'skill'. You can give people the same training, but they won't necessarily retain the same skill level; the entire point of May's character is that she was exceptionally skilled in combat, going beyond the usual skill level, despite the fact she'd have the same training, because she was naturally skilled at it.



Not to mention, lets take into account adaptability; assuming May and her opponents are both trained to fight an average sized opponent, they're going to be given different techniques to learn to make up for their physical differences (in other words, the big guys are trained on how to fight using their strength, but the small guys (or, small gals in her case) are going to be trained on how to make use of their lack of strength/size to still take them on); when it comes to fighting, May is fully trained to fight these people, but they're trained to fight someone completely different than May. At the end of the day, they're not trained to fight someone like May, and that's her advantage.


And, again, there's resilience. In all of May's fights, she doesn't win because she's a better fighter than everyone; on the contrary, she's been stabbed, shot, caught off-guard, and pinned down many times in the show. The reason she wins, however, is because she can take more punishment than others can and keeps fighting throughout that; just like Daredevil and Spider-Man, she's not the strongest, biggest, or baddest, she's just the most stubborn in her fights. 

Steel Toes
Steel Toes

IDK WHAT IT could BE, IT COULD GO SO MANY DIRECTIONS. Mack IS TO COOL TO BE HYDRA ' S LITTLE ERRAND BOY....BUT YOU NEVER know. SUPER interesting PLOT though.

Steel Toes
Steel Toes

I AGREE 100%! A.O.S. LEADING US INTO THE future OF THE MCU IS VERY captivating TO US REAL fan boys, BUT ALSO IN A WAY THAT ALL THE NEW marvelites CAN GRAB A HOLD OF THE characters IN A WHOLE NEW LIGHT. Especially IF spidey SNEAKS IN SOMEHOW.

I THINK BLACK BOLT IS WATCHING THE WHOLE situation UNFOLD HERE ON MID-GARD. Probably A FEW OTHER cosmic ENTITIES AS WELL.

JosOLantern
JosOLantern

@skimby123 Yeah, Agent 33 should feel lucky that May's face is forever melted on hers. What an honor!

Tommygun264
Tommygun264

@kldsjfaljkflkdsj The Inhumans were created by the Kree centuries earlier - the Kree experimented on early humans in hopes of creating a warrior race to fight for them.  But they abandoned the project & left the Inhumans to their own devices.  The Kree warrior SHIELD was using to make serum had been sent to re-establish contact with & perhaps "activate" the Inhumans, but they didn't want the knowledge to fall into the wrong hands, so the Kree encoded the information into his DNA.  That way if he was captured or killed, whomever got him wouldn't know what he was there for - he wouldn't even be able to tell them where he was headed.

JosOLantern
JosOLantern

@WYGUY42 i agree. they are making him look like a weak link right now...so he either gets better and back in the mix, or turns evil, or gets killed. my theory is that he will inject himself with the Kree serum.

ablackraptor
ablackraptor member

@Ostariol They don't answer to the US government, they answer(ed) to the World Security Council, a coalition of governments including America, Britain, India, China, and multiple other countries (I'm assuming its the UN in general with representatives from each country rotating depending on the topic/situation), so technically, its not the US breaking international borders, its the UN.


And, while its not exactly a 'good' thing to do, its not like they were spying on the governments themselves, but rather on independent individuals plotting acts of terror. Its not like 'good guys' have to obey every rule out there, especially when doing so saves lives; its called moral ambiguity.

JosOLantern
JosOLantern

@Ostariol Good question. I think this is pretty much addressed in Captain America 2...with SHIELD goin' crazy with their overreach...as much of what they were doing around the world and what they lobbied for in gov't were actually HYDRA plans. SHIELD has now pretty much lost all of its reputation and has been shut down which begs the question: who is financially supporting SHIELD?

ablackraptor
ablackraptor member

@skimby123 She lost the first fight in S2E4, so its not like she's completely undefeatable. She's also lost fights in the past and taken bad bumps during fights, so she's far from a perfect, she just happens to be the combat specialist of the show, so she's, you know, good at combat.


Its not really that 'insulting to the intelligence of the viewer', especially when you take into account that its pretty common in shows like this for the biggest badass in the show/film to lose very rarely, and she at least makes up for it by being a flawed and interesting character.

JosOLantern
JosOLantern

@skimby123 Hey, she's not "The Cavalry" for nothing! I have a feeling things will go crazy of she and Ward square off again.

Steel Toes
Steel Toes

I HEAR YA. I'm BUMMED TOO. AND JUDGING OFF OF THE farewell VIDEO THAT THE REST OF THE CAST MADE FOR HIM, it's A PREtty GOOD assumption THAT HE IS GONE. I'm thinking some sort OF INHUMAN FUSION, SOMEONE LIKE SANDMAN AND THE PARTICLES THAT HE CAN break DOWN TOO. IDK, TONS OF VARIABLES.

BUT...IF COULSON SEEMS TO think THAT STARTING THE movement WILL HELP, THEN I'm RIDING WITH HIM till THE WHEELS FALL OFF!

WYGUY42
WYGUY42

@Tommygun264 @kldsjfaljkflkdsj you know, i love this site because i learn stuff and it reminds me I'm not the only one out there who actually keeps up with the comics…. Hooray for us!!

57Stratman
57Stratman

Ahhhh, the Grammar Nazi's have arrived!!!

Ostariol
Ostariol

@ablackraptor @Ostariol World Security Council... ok, sounds a bit better. 

But Good Guys (tm) shouldn't be breaking rules/ laws. Otherwise, what's to differentiate them from the Bad Guys (tm)? the Good Guys are prettier? Blonder? Have less facial hair? 


This is a comic book universe, so the writers could portray "moral ambiguity" in any different ways without resorting to breaking the rules. Indeed, TV is full of instances where the characters debate breaking the rules when suddenly an even happened that opened another method to break the case. 


Another way to make the series more interesting is not by making the Good Guys less of a good guy, but making the Bad Guys more three dimensional. As it is, the bad guys are more like Saturday morning cartoon figures than flesh and blood characters.

TheBisbarino
TheBisbarino

@57Stratman You may call me a Grammar Nazi, however I call myself... CAPTAIN GRAMMAR!!! A Christian vigilante heaven bent on fighting crime and teaching proper English to the nation! Does any villain of the day posses the language skills to take on this hero? Or will our courageous, spell checking hero have to face life without the punctuation our world deserves? Find out one day in all new CAPTAIN GRAMMAR!!! A MARVEL original comic book. 

Hope you're reading this Axel Alonso! Ill take 12% profit after tax, NONE negotiable. 

Ostariol
Ostariol

@ablackraptor first, I apologize in advance if I offend, English is not my primary language, so the way I state things may cause some bad feelings. Sorry, I don't mean to offend. 


So the difference between HYDRA and SHIELD is the intent; HYDRA is evil because it has evil intention. SHIELD is good because it has good intention.

The "intent" clause is one I used to like but no more. IMHO, it is now used as an excuse to commit bad, even criminal acts. 

"No, I'm not taking your coat forcefully from you, I intend to give it to a poor person."

"No I'm not murdering him, I need his money to save this little child."

"No, I'm teaching this kid valuable household skills, I'm not molesting him."

I'm sure you can think of better examples.


If you do good things, then you're a good person. If you do bad things, you're a bad person. As simple as that. What about when you do have to to bad things for good reasons, such as stealing a loaf of bread to feed your sister's kids? Why not use the Scales of Justice method; Steal bread -> bad act. Feed starving kids -> good act. Bad act sort of balances the good act. 


How is this different from "intent"? Because it doesn't absolve bad acts. With the "intent" clause, you can do bad acts, any bad acts you want to, here's the menu, and as long as you have good intentions, then you're golden. Not with the Scales of method. Too many bad acts --> the scales of justice tips toward the bad side --> you're a bad person. 


Spies are your best friends who steal from you. Spies need to get info from you. The best way to do that is to get close to you. The best way to do that is to be your best friend. Have you ever had a good friend steal something from you? Stab you in the back on some issue? Sleep with your girlfriend/ boyfriend? That's what Spies do. 


Josh Whedon has a great talent in creating great characters. Ward, Garrett, and Raina are testaments of that talent. Whitehall, on the other hand, is still too one-dimensional; he's a bad guy because he wants to do a bad thing (control the world, etc.). Why does he want to do the bad thing? Because he's a bad guy. So he's a bad guy because...? Because he wants to do a bad thing. And he wants to do this bad thing because... ? Because he's bad guy, of course. And the reason he's a bad guy is because... ? He wants to do a bad thing. Ad infinitum. 




ablackraptor
ablackraptor member

@Ostariol @ablackraptor What differentiates them is their goals; HYDRA break the laws because they want to establish a new world order where freedom doesn't exist, while SHIELD break laws because they're trying to stop HYDRA as well as protect civilians from harm. Its like cops using guns; yes, its the same tactics the criminals are using, but the cops are shooting to wound, not kill, and doing so to protect the public.

They're spies. Spies break rules. Its a founding principal of the espionage genre as espionage is, itself, illegal, just as vigilantism is. Really, its not that much different than Daredevil and Spider-Man breaking into villainous lairs to stop Kingpin and such; legally speaking, they shouldn't be doing it because its illegal to break in and enter someone's property without a permit or invitation, but they do it anyway because they need to stop the badguys.


True, but having a 'convenient third option' just appear would get really cliché really fast; you can't have the solution be easy all the time, otherwise it gets boring. Its not like they're even doing anything particularly malicious anyway; their spying tends to be against figures like Quinn, Whitehall, and other villains, rather than other governments or civilians, so its not like they're doing anything particularly menacing.

And, I'd have to agree to disagree on the 'Saturday morning cartoon' thing; Ward, Talbott, and Raina have been really complex characters so far, and while the Doctor and Garrett have been rather hammy, they're entertaining and have interesting motivations.

ablackraptor
ablackraptor member

@skimby123 @ablackraptor The Hulk is literally the strongest being there is, so he doesn't really make a fair comparison here. Not to mention, look at Avengers; Widow was able to survive her encounter and get out of there through skill alone, while Thor, who is strong-but-not-as-strong and is a lot smaller than Hulk, was able to hold him off and keep him busy through skill alone in their fight. 


Neither were able to beat him, but they still avoided being slaughtered, because, while being strong and big help, skill, experience, and resilience in a fight can help make up for that.

Look at May's fights so far, they very rarely rely on physical prowess, but rather on her ability to keep fighting despite injury and pragmatism in her fights such as finding weapons, using the environment, and using surprise where she can. 


Hell, look at Bruce Lee, for christ's sake. He was only 5 ft 7, yet he made up for that by being incredibly fast and skilled, and is still largely considered one of the best fighters in the world.


57Stratman
57Stratman

Uh, Captain Grammar? It's "Non-negotiable"... just saying, for a Hydra Grammar Nazi, you yourself need a little work...

ablackraptor
ablackraptor member

@Ostariol @ablackraptor I think you're taking the 'intent' thing to strawman argument territory there, especially since I never said it was their 'intent' that made them good, but rather more like the scales of justice idea you talked about. SHIELD have done bad things, agreed, but those bad acts were needed so they could do something good. 

Spy on a rich guy's charity banquet? Did that to uncover the gravity weapon in his basement. Enter a hostile country's territory and break into a military base? Did that to destroy a WMD they wanted to sell/use for bad reasons. Defy military orders to stand down and surrender? Did that to stop Garrett and Quinn from producing Deathloks and saved a bunch of innocents.

Every bad act of espionage they've done so far was for, ultimately, the greater good. I think that fits the scales of justice idea.


I can agree on Whitehall being rather one-dimensional, but I think that's the point; he's a former high-ranking Nazi, for christ's sake. As unrealistic as it is, the high-ranking Nazis WERE evil for the sake of evil.

Not to mention, this is nothing unique to the show; Red Skull and Sabastian Shaw in CATFA and XMFC were both pretty much the same in how they were portrayed.

TheBisbarino
TheBisbarino

@57Stratman Oh come on?! Its just a bit of harmless banter! Stop taking it so seriously for crying out loud!

57Stratman
57Stratman

Relax Bisbarino, I'm just jerk in your chain right back... don't get your panties in a wad. ;-)