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Okay what constitutes as a Mutant? A person born with powers. Physical features from birth that seperate him or her from his or her species. Or does it have to say Mutant in it to constitute as a person being a mutant. -- mimicx35 3:56 PM May 10, 2006

Marvel's policy is that a mutant is defined as someone who has a genetic "x-factor" that allows him or her to exhibit traits different than his or her parents (typically giving them fantastic powers, or should I say "uncanny" ones.) This is different that a mutate, which is what happens when someone is granted superhuman abilities after birth. (Thus the Savage Land Mutates. So it's something genetic. At one point, many Marvel characters were identified has having "latent" mutant abilities, meaning I suppose the genetic potential was there but needed a catalyst to be activated. (See Cloak and Dagger.) I'm not sure when Black Cat was suggested to be a mutant, but it was pointed out on this site. --Danny Waah! 17:03, 10 May 2006 (EDT)

So... Spider-Man is not a mutant, I know that. But it could be the parents were exposed to radioactivity or something, so the kid's genetic code got messed up and he became a true mutant (as happened to Proffesor X). sononsj 22:16, 15 May 2006 (EDT)

I think the definition of a mutant is "A human who has been born with genetic differences".

Since....

Since there is a seperate category for people who used to be mutants, shouldn't this category be only for characters that are STILL mutants. It would help people who use this database as a reference. -- IRISH4869 14:51, 16 May 2006 (EDT)

Theres a category for people who used to be mutants? -- mimicx35 1:59 PM May 16,2006

I just checked the category page and I did not see a category for depowered mutants or whatever its called. It would be nice to have, but when I tried to make a category like that It was deleted. mimicx35 2:02 PM May 16, 2006

It's unnecessary. We already have virtually two categories for mutant characters - X-Men and Mutants. We don't need a third. --ComiX-Fan 17:55, 17 May 2006 (EDT)

Depowered

here is a list of mutants who were depowered after the House of M fiasco:

Magneto Blob Sunfire Professor X Polaris Unus Callisto Mesmero Moonstar Feral Thornn Jubilee Chamber Levy, Hannah Quicksilver Aero DJ Dryad Network Preview Prodigy Spectre Rubbermaid Ortega, Armena Bugman Juicers King, Lara Stacy X Hub Hack Purge Wicked Freakshow Inkosi, Shola Abyss Angel (Angel Salvadore) Beak Bloodlust Gazer Mister Marvel Lexington, Alexander Rictor

The Following were reported in Avengers #18

Agent Zero Angel Dust Artie Black Tom Blind Faith Boost Bora Brass Caiman El Aguila Fatale Conquistador Flambe Gloom Harpoon Hybrid Jon Spectre Key King Bedlam Kiwi Black Longneck Lightning Rod Mary Zero Mist Mistress Monsoone Murmur Murmur II Nightwind Overrider Postman Phantazia Quill (Resistants) Radian Radius Randall Shire Reaper Red Neck Scanner Shocker (Resistants) Shatter Slick Slipstream Spoilsport Tantra Strobe Tarot Tattoo Tether Tremolo Vague Wild Child Wildside Windshear Wiz Kid Wraith Xorn Zach

The Following were reported in Avengers #19

Armena Ortega Hack Hanna Levy Hazard Hub Lara the Illusionist Forearm Arturo Falcone Goldern Child Preview Prodigy Skywalker Spectre Spike Tag Tantra Winddancer

Spider-Girl

Could Spider-gil be consider a mutant?

Nope. Lol I dont know. mimicx35 1:22 PM May 26, 2006

A child born with superhuman powers isn't necessarily a mutant by definition. A mutant has to have the x-factor in their genes. Mayday, as far as I can recall, has never been tested positive for the x-factor, though as typical of mutants, her abilities did surface during adolescence. Unless specifically determined in a comic, leave her off the mutant list.--MikeFichera 16:00, 26 May 2006 (EDT)

Yes. Anybody born with genetic differences is a mutant. That's Spider-Girl for you.-captainkatz

That's not how it works, Katz. Anyone born with an X-factor (in other words, a "mistake") in their genes is a mutant. Spider-Girl is a mutate, and she had a "Z-factor" (so to speak) in her genes only because her father passed it on. sononsj 20:29, 30 May 2006 (EDT)

Well I'm not asking this of Spider-Girl but about Human Torch sidekick Toro. He was born with the ability to resist flame but it happened because his father and mother were both sick of different materials that might have changed the fetus genes. He doesnt have the X-factor or if he has then he might be the first mutant but I highly dought that he is even a mutant. --Wezqu 04:13, 25 July 2006 (EDT)

Unconfirmed Mutants

Mutants who are unconfirmed of either still having their powers or losing theirs:

Vanisher Commando (Frank Bohannan) Siena Blaze Mastermind (Jason Wyngarde) Lynx Lullaby Locus Gibbon Swordsman (Andreas Strucker) Unuscoine, Carmella Mandrill Eye-Scream Lobo, Carlos Lobo Brothers Aardwolf

Lesser known mutants who have retained their powers

Kraven (Aloysha Kravinoff)

Non-Mutants

Characters Agent X (Nijo), Ashcan, Dinah Soar, and Puck (Zuzha Yu) have questionable species classifications. M.Factor 00:46, 25 July 2006 (EDT)

Dude all of those except Agent X (And maybe he is) are confirmed mutants. --User:mimicx35

In the OHOTMU A-Z #1, Ashcan is said to be empowered by touching his father's "experimental incineration device" which caused a n "energy discharge". I admit I haven't read any of his appearances though, but by going by that I thought he was not a mutant.

I'm fairly positive Dinah Soar is not a mutant as well, but an alien.

After rechecking, and I'm incorrect about Nanny and the Orphan Maker. I apologize. M.Factor 00:46, 25 July 2006 (EDT)

Black Cat

Would Black Cat be considered a mutant? If so, Can I add her to this category? --fantasticthing

Black Cat is not a mutant. I don't really get where this idea has started. If you would have bothered to read Black Cat's bio powers part. It's mentioned there that that jinxing power was just "meticulously planned stunts". She once had real jinxing power but it had nothing to do with mutant abilities. She got that from scientists that worked for Kingpin. --Wezqu 13:19, 15 November 2007 (CST)

Oh, I know that she got her powers from Kingpin. I've read her bio. But My point is you don't have to be teenager with "Powers" to be a mutant at first. For instance....Juggernaut was a normal guy, But when he got the crimson gem of Cttorak, He awakened his Mutant powers by means of Mysticism. I just did'nt know if perhaps later on it was revealed that "Kingpins Experiments" Awakened some mutant power. fantasticthing

Well you are also wrong on Juggernaut he is not a mutant in anyway all of his powers are mystic origins as he doesn't have X-Gene. Cttorak didn't awaken his mutant powers it cave him its powers as its shown there has been others with the same power before in all those who have used the Cttorak crystal and about Black Cat there is no proof of her posessing the X-Gene. --Wezqu 03:45, 16 November 2007 (CST)

Okay, Well thanks for the info. User: Fantasticthing