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Uhm Eric, correct me if I'm wrong here but there are 198 mutants left after House of M right? Therefore the 198 is ALL the mutants left over from the House of M. How is that not the survivng mutants? The team that Mister M assembles is not the 198. It is a fraction of the 198 that he leads off of Xavier's grounds. I completely disagree with you on this point. Ask Hine for clarification please. -- IRISH4869 04:17, 26 April 2006 (EDT)

Nope, you are wrong. 198 is the government's initial estimate of the number of surviving mutants, which, like all estimates, is inexact (e.g. there'e a couple of mutants they didn't count, such as Cloak and Dagger, because whichever government bodies did the count didn't realise they were mutants. Mister M's group, while only a fraction of that number, took the name as a rallying point. It's symbolic. Stuart Vandal 07:51, 26 April 2006 (EDT)

Um... not to intrude or anything, but I believe Eric is right. I even think in the House of M aftermath special its says that there are 198 left, total. But they could Have not counted the Mutants with the X-Men, X-Factor, Excalibur or other mutants in teams. And technically there are 197 left since JAzz was killed. mimicx35 10:34 PM 25, April 2006 (EDT)


I'd still like Hine to confirm that that is what it is. BUT didn't the X-Men state that there were 198. And has the government named all 198????? NO they haven't. About one hundred and thirty-three mutants have been named (including members of the X-Men, X-Force, X-Factor, Excalibur, Avengers, etc. I am confused as to what Mimicx was refering to.) leaving roughly sixty unnamed mutants wandering around. Cloak and Dagger could be on the rest of the list. Marvel left it open so they had room for charatcers like Cloak and Dagger and others they may have missed. Stuart when you guys wrote the 198 Files they told you which ones to write profiles on correct? Didn't you wonder where the other sixty mutants are? If the government has nailed it down to an "approximate" 198 then why didn't Marvel name the sixty others? Because they don't know yet. The 198 is the mutants left over. The group assembled by Mister M is just that, a team. They are members of the 198 who have broken off from the main group. Also (I'm adding this after my initial posting) in the recent issue of Wizard, Hine (who writes the 198) is quoted as saying "For many of the 198, it's a case of 'Give me libertyor give me death" If the 198 was just Mister M's small band would he have said it like that?? Wouldn't all of the group follow Mister M's lead (which in my opinion is away from the government)? So then can we surmise that Hine intended the 198 to be ALL of the remaining mutants. - IRISH4869 23:13, 26 April 2006 (EDT)

Sorry I misquoted or misinterpreted something. Kyle 8:15 April 27, 2006 (EDT)

Folks, the number 198 and the group 198 are two different things. The number 198 was an early estimate by the government as to the number of mutants remaining. It is by no means the final number. The group the 198 comprises those mutants who took refuge at the Xavier Institute. They adopted the name "198" as a symbol for them to rally around. The 198 group only comprises those mutants who were in the refugee camp. It doesn't consist of every remaining powered mutant on Earth. --ComiX-Fan 07:04, 28 April 2006 (EDT)

there should be some clarification on the main page then, to clarify which group this page covers - which in this case is seemingly mister m's group

i took like half an hour adding names to the list of the 198 and submitted it - only to come here and realise that the '198' isnt the one i thoguht it was - im an idiot