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Two Sides

So... following along with whats been going on in Amazing Spider-Man and the other Road To Civil War comics... Whose Side Are You On? ;)Spidey:Weapon X

Whatever side Spider-Man is on I will be there. -marvels 23:17, 5 May 2006 (EDT)

lol, thats loyalty. I'm voting for Iron Man, namely for the Super Hero Registration initiative. Spidey:Weapon X 18:17, 6 May 2006 (EDT)

What are you a communist!?!?! LOl just joking. I have no side yet. I actually have to find out more about the registration before I decide,but im leaning towards anti registration bc of what they did to cap. --mimicx35 9:20 PM May 6, 2006 (EDT)

I understand that the Punisher will have a role to play in the Civil War , I know i probably will be told to "wait and see" but can anybody see just which direction he will take here ? david andrews 13:55, 7 May 2006 (EDT)

The first issue was pretty cool, I hope the rest is as good and that the two sides both have compelling arguments. Right now it's pretty hard to argue against Cap, I mean he's generally right and who wants to see their favorite superhero regulated? Iron Man has always been my fave and I'd love to side with him, but it's tough. So hopefully the rest of the issues deliver. The artwork by the way, was fantastic.--CypherHalo 12:22, 17 May 2006 (EDT)


im against registration --pickelteeth 22:02, 4 August 2006 (EDT)pickelteeth

Punishers not really a 'super person'. I don't know if the Registration will apply to him. If it does, he kills people for a living, so I doubt he'll want to register.--Spidey:Weapon X 14:54, 4 June 2006 (EDT)

if my post on here was taken off becuse i sounded like a jerk i am sorry (i really do have a pschological problem with that kind of thing) and if my geuss was right about spider-man then i wont bring it up again.

Anti-Registration is the way to go here no doubt about it. I think Spideys going to regret his decision of unmasking, I just hope Cap is'nt the one thats going to get killed off.

I hope we see Punisher show up soon in this series. I believe he will side with Captain America and company but you never know whats in store. Civil War #4 should really get the ball rollin on this event so lets wait and see.

I'm on the Anti-Registration side, but I think it would be cool if they just took every hero on each side, and had a massive brawl to determine who gets their way. Marvel could make a 5-issue series of it, and it will be interesting to see the sides characters like Spider-Man take. --abcdefghijklmno 21:17, 26 August 2006 (EDT)


spidey needs to go wit iron man to be scarlet spiderman. I choose iron man

CHOOSE SIDES

See my user page to choose a side. --Viper 00:03, 9 May 2006 (EDT)

Civil War is the best comic ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wonder who will die in the Civil War it was said that it will be a major character. I know that Thor is coming back during the big battle I think he will fight for Captain America and go head to head with the Sentry. It would be so cool if Hawkeye came back and fought for Captain America how would Iron Man fight a teamate he though was dead.

Bragging Rights-- MAJOR SPOILER CONCERNING SPIDER-MANS SIDE IN THE CIVIL WAR

This is for all you Spider-Man loyalists out there who were so sure that he'd be on Captain America's side: YEAH! Whose side is Spider-Man on? If you answered IRON MAN then you were right! I am so buzzed right now.--Spidey:Weapon X 14:55, 8 June 2006 (EDT)

calm down. spidey switches sides in august. check the catalog.--thewatcheromega

Dude, you totally killed my enthusiasm :( Still, it seems kind of hokey. I mean, its such an obvious plot twist that it kind of seems stupid to even have it and not just have him join Cap immediatly.--Spidey:Weapon X 11:14, 12 June 2006 (EDT)

Click here: [[1]] to see him apparently betreying Iron Man. sononsj 19:50, 12 June 2006 (EDT)

See, it looks like he's betraying him, but one issue earlier he's fighting Cap. I think the covers might be showing indecision, and not actual action... ok, I don't think that, I wish... :(--Spidey:Weapon X 21:21, 12 June 2006 (EDT)

oops, put my apology on the wrong article. check the firs discussio for it.--thewatcheromega

I think my big surprise was at the end of Civil War 2. I hope the writers know what they're doing, that's not the kind of thing that is easily reversible. It's gonna totally change how Spider-man operates, and I don't know if it will be for the better. It's definitely a good issue but Cap is still looking like the underdog and hero and Iron Man and his buddies like bad guys. It's looking good, but I'm waiting for further issues before I render a verdict. (offending sections removed)--CypherHalo 21:32, 14 June 2006 (EDT)

hold your horses their partner. your given away waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy too much. some of us havent got it yet. try and be dicreit when you talk abuot civil war and newstuff in general for that matter.--thewatcheromega

Cypher Halo, please read recent Amazing Spider-Man issues. They present a terrific argument for Iron Man's side. Also, try to be more descrete with story details, the issue just came out yesterday and some people still haven't picked it up.--Spidey:Weapon X 11:22, 15 June 2006 (EDT)

Well that wasn't how I wanted to make a name for myself . . . Let me try and phrase it differently. comics have a certain balance or status quo, which it is difficult to mess with. Iron Man will never have a girl he permanently stays with, Cap is the same, just, things like that. Messing with these status quos is tricky and seems to be rampant. In doses it can be really cool and when done correctly, totally awesome. However people just seem to be throwing it in everywhere, and its driving me a little nuts and might chase away old fans. but if attracts new fans, I guess Marvel wins. I'm not certain on any of this, just a bit of an opinion. --CypherHalo 01:10, 16 June 2006 (EDT)

Marvel did say this would change the Marvel U. They said that about the House of M, too, but this time we've seen some serious changes already. The status quo has to change, because thats how life works. Besides, I think what they did at the end of Civil War #2 was totally kick @$$. My personal opinion is that this is the coolest thing since the Ice Age. Its irreversible, too, which seems to prove to me that Spidey will not switch sides because now, there's nothing to fight for.--Spidey:Weapon X 09:42, 16 June 2006 (EDT)

boy o boy i cannot wait to see betty's,flash's'jj's and liz's reaction to this. the studen's will all probably be asking for autghraphs.--thewatcheromega

I just read Civil War 3 for the third time and I can say if what I think is happening happens (not giving away anything here) I may be tempted for the first time to leave Marvel for a certain smaller [I]ndependent label full time. I mean, come on, Spider-Man, Sue Storm, Thing, and the guy who returns at the end of 3 siding with the obviously corrupt Iron Man against Cap? I know everyone is expecting Marvel to kill Cap, but if they allow Cap to die and Stark to live, I would consider this an even greater injustice than the Clone Saga. (Still wretching from what they are doing to their best heroes). At least Wolverine is still readible.

Iron Man is not corrupt. Corruption is Hitler. Corruption is Sadam Hussein. Iron Man is the Law. Pure and simple. Spider-Man's own relatives backed the Law. The person at the end of 3 comes from a hierarchy. Thing's arguments are in the FF. Registration isn't an unfair law, its a good one, and thats what Iron man is standing for here. If he had his own agenda, that would be corruption, but he doesn't.--Spidey:Weapon X 13:57, 21 July 2006 (EDT)

But corruption stems primarily from power, and usually the most powerful people are the people who make the laws, which makes them the most dangerous and consequently, the most liable to become corrupt. Honestly, Hitler and Hussein WERE the law in their countries. But it took other countries to come in and force their laws upon them to stop them. Which I'm not debating the validity of, for either of them, just the simple facts. And following what you think is right (which isn't objective) IS an agenda, which is what Tony is doing. PseudoSherlock 16:00, 21 July 2006 (EDT)

see . . . I dunno . . . maybe I don't want the marvel universe changed too much. last time they tried a major change with Iron Man was Teen Tony and that sucked, Heroes Reborn was okay but apparently flopped cuz they quit it real quick. I mean, I buy the comics now so I must like them the way they are. Any change has to be real good . . . and Civil War . . . not sure it's heading in that direction . . . only time will tell. In the meantime it certainly it is interesting reading.--CypherHalo 22:50, 25 July 2006 (EDT)

Teams?

Can we create a profile for the unnamed team of heroes who are with Cap and those who are with Iron Man? mimicx35 9:08 PM June 15, 2006

According to previews, those teams are the Super Human Registration Initiative and the Underground Resistance. But no, until Civil War 3 when they actually get their names and the War starts, I don't think so.--Spidey:Weapon X 22:11, 15 June 2006 (EDT)

It is preferred that contributors wait until the completion of a mini-series/story arc before posting information from them. In other words, please wait for Civil War to finish before creating any new profiles or posting information from it into existing profiles. --ComiX-Fan 06:38, 17 June 2006 (EDT)

i don't think thats fair. some kids might not be able to afford all the civil war books so they won't be able to know about this stuff.--thewatcheromega

If they really want to know about what is going on, they will find out. There are numerous message boards online that they can go to and find out current information. There are also Blogs here to find information as well as internet news sites like Newsarama to go to. I mean, I don't read CIVIL WAR and I know all the stuff that is going on. Even the few comics I am able to get these days (THUNDERBOLTS, CABLE & DEADPOOL, Handbooks and all Taskmaster appearances) I know what happens in them before I even buy them. --DragynWulf 10:09, 17 June 2006 (EDT)

Yay i think the Civil War is going no where but up up up!!

The reason its preferred that contributors wait is that you never know how a story arc or mini-series is going to end, or whether something that was revealed early on is revealed to be something else. If we have contributors updating/adding profiles after every issue, it becomes a logistical nightmare to keep writing and re-writing information. So, again, best to wait til the end. --ComiX-Fan 12:03, 17 June 2006 (EDT)


Yeah But what about those of us who cant find CIVIL WAR Comics any where because they are sold out. How do we know what is going on, it SUCKS! JOKA

Dude, look it up on Wikipedia. I miss tons of Civil War tie ins, and I go there and some fan has written out every detail of a story. You're not exactly without means to find these things.--Spidey:Weapon X 12:16, 11 July 2006 (EDT)

I think I am going to join Caps team. Although Iron man is cool. And ol'Tin Man does Have Spidey on his team. Although the X-Men are on Caps team...I think I will Join Caps team!!- nightcrawler0x7

Dunno if you read Civil War #3, but the X-men aren't taking a side, except for Wolverine, who appears anti reg.--Spidey:Weapon X 14:43, 27 July 2006 (EDT)

Law

Since Registration is now law, do people like Captain America and the others who oppose it now have criminal records? I mean, it seems logical that they would.--Spidey:Weapon X 17:26, 19 June 2006 (EDT)

They should have criminal records, but won't be given them. The X-Men were never given a criminal record for not registering for the Mutant Registration so I doubt the heroes will as well. --DragynWulf 17:31, 19 June 2006 (EDT)

Technically speaking, they should be given criminal records, no? I mean, both the X-Men and the Heroes against registration are in direct violation of the law. Are we allowed to mark them with criminal records, or should we not?--Spidey:Weapon X 18:56, 19 June 2006 (EDT)

Are the characters breaking the law? Yes. Should they be given criminal records in the bios? No. Much like what happened with the Mutant Regisration Act, no criminal records were given to the X-Men or other mutants that did not register with the government. --DragynWulf 20:27, 19 June 2006 (EDT)

See, this is where I'm confused. If characters are breaking the law, doesn't that instantly give them a criminal record? If the X-Men aren't marked with a criminal record, but they didn't register, then they do have criminal records, we just haven't recorded them. Or, like, do you have to be arrested and tried before it makes you a criminal?--Spidey:Weapon X 22:21, 19 June 2006 (EDT)

A character would have to be arrested in order to be given a criminal record. Justice (Vance Astrovik) has a criminal record for killing his father. Speedball will most likely get a criminal record if he is sent to jail/prison. But much like the villains, you have to be arrested and found guilty (which is rarely seen) to be given a criminal record. --DragynWulf 00:43, 20 June 2006 (EDT)

Okay, now I understand. Thanks.--Spidey:Weapon X 15:28, 20 June 2006 (EDT)

Oh Canada

I was looking up Super Hero Registration, and I found that it has actually come up a few times before in Marvel comics, not including Mutant Registration. I also found that a few years back, Registration became law in Canada (in Alpha Flight), long before the Civil War. Yet, I heard a rumour that heroes would flee to Canada to be safe. But, they'll just have to register there too? Does anyone know whats going on? Does Canada still have a Registration law?--Spidey:Weapon X 22:24, 19 June 2006 (EDT)


They wouldn't have to register in Canada. This only affects the U.S., since it is our government that is passing and enforcing the act. They couldn't do anything if they go to other countries. I doubt that would happen though, who wants to uproot their lives and start over in another country?--crazyizzy 15:52, 28 June 2006 (EDT)

No, before the Civil War was even conceived of at Marvel, there was a story in Alpha Flight where a type of Super Human Registration became law. Its already law in Canada. And yet, if heroes flee to Canada, there must have been some sort of drawback on the law. What I was asking has nothing to do with the current Civil War comic.

List

Why are the entire Fantastic Four put on the Pro-Registration list? As of the latest FF comic, the Invisible Woman is CLEARLY Anti-Registration. Plus, there are hints that the Thing is Anti- as well, or will be next time. So...unless someone has a big complaint, I'm going to move the Invisible Woman to the Anti- side. However, as the Thing hasn't officially made a stand yet, I'm leaving him on the Pro- side... PseudoSherlock 12:17, 13 July 2006 (EDT)

I see that the page is now protected, which was probably smart. Though some sort of verbal statement about the FF would also be handy... PseudoSherlock 12:31, 13 July 2006 (EDT)

Ok, so now it's open, and the Thing & Invisible Woman are neutral until further notice. So all my comments are now irrelevant, just FYI. :) PseudoSherlock 13:57, 13 July 2006 (EDT)

I just put invisible woman and thing on the pro since they were BOTH fighting cap and his anti-registration people. -- mimicx35

Daredevil

Umm...what do we do about Daredevil? As of Civil War #2, you can see him on the Anti-Registration side. However, no one knows who he is as of yet. So, do we just patiently want to wait until he's revealed? PseudoSherlock 17:44, 14 July 2006 (EDT)

Well you could add him there, but it shouldn't be linked to original Daredevil, because he isnt him. The link could be named for example Daredevil (unrevealed) and then add the name when its revealed who he is. --Wezqu 18:06, 14 July 2006 (EDT)

Which is now done, thank you, Pete! Oh, and what's with the people on the Pro- side? This just isn't fair!! PseudoSherlock 12:37, 18 July 2006 (EDT)

Well that list isnt so sure deal. Many of those members are villains that Thunderbolts turned to their side. I wouldnt trust they loyalty so much. Doc Ock is going to scram when he gets the chance he never was a team player and many other of those wouldnt stay if they can get a chance to escape. I would say that sure deals to join the Thunderbolts are those three Beetle guys. Well I was the one who edited it first to Daredevil (unrevealed), because some other guy added him and the link pointed to the original Daredevil. Pete just changed so it says that he is just a imposter and he even wrote it "impostor" fixed it couble seconds ago. It will start to even up when this goes on nut it wasnt a big suprise that there is more people on Pro- side.

I would imagine that during the story there will be people switching over. As being officially against the government is a big deal, those people are not just going to all line up in the first couple days. So I suppose we'll see... PseudoSherlock 06:52, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

Moon Knight!!! It's Moon Knight! His combat skills are on par with Daredevil. He uses weapons almost exactly like DD's billy club. He's creepy and would be likely to stand in the darkened corner of a room, flipping a coin. Marc Spector has multiple personalities. He's ex-CIA and often uses disguises. In Cable and Deadpool #30, Deadpool recognized him after he spouted some pop culture reference: Marc Spector is also known for his command of trivia and esoteric knowledge. USQ Baker Boy

The list is a sure deal because all the villains that joined, joined because they were given the chance to be on the other side of the law and go after the heroes legally. If they choose to run, they it still makes them on the Pro-Registration side of it all. The villains are already registered due to being previously being arrested, so they have everything to gain and nothing to lose from joining the Thunderbolts and the Pro-Registration side.
As far as trusting their loyalty, Zemo knows who he can trust because he can look at every possible future (like he did with Photon) with the Moonstone gems. Then he also had stimulation impulses added to their brain to show them all the good that will come out of joining. Some like the odds, others don't. But as Moongoose said, what choise do they really have? --DragynWulf 20:24, 20 July 2006 (EDT)

As I said its a list, but list doesnt mean anything if members on it isnt going to do what they have been told to do. Like I said that those three beetle guys is a sure thing because they are so fresh in the villain business that it was not even hard to convince them to change side. I still stick to my opinion that many of those so called "members" will in some point in near future split from the team. Doc Ock is one of the sure things to leave because he has never been a person that works for a team. He is only interested in his personal gain and if he thinks that he can benefit from Thunderbolts membership he will stay there as long as it suits his purposes. He doesnt care what happens to the others if he just get what he wants. They have a choice to not to join and I can say that there is many villains who has refused to join but others see this thing as a oportunity to change side, for personal gain or just a way out of the sell and escape. Honestly if Doc Ock will stay with them and dont back stap them I will be amazed. --Wezqu 20:37, 20 July 2006 (EDT)

Each villain joined the Thunderbolts. Since when have the Thunderbolts done what they have been told to do though? Fixer does what he wants just because of a challenge. Moonstone manipulated whomever and whenever she could. Zemo has played both sides so many times it is hard to tell what side he is on. Atlas is prone to fits of rage. MACH-IV went to Hydra to get funded. Speed Demon was stealing as a Thunderbolt for himself and then later stole to fund the Thunderbolts. Skein, Harrier, Plantman and others joined and then later quit. Man-Killer joined the Thunderbolts, then quit and then joined again. The list goes on with what each member has done no matter what they have been told or what the plan for the group involves. So all of the villains joined the Thunderbolts. Some will stay and some won't, but that doesn't mean they are not Thunderbolts now. --DragynWulf 22:35, 20 July 2006 (EDT)

Did anyone notice that in Civil War #3 Daredevil is revealed, and he looks like Murdock? I mean, do his fellow heroes know him as Murdock, and are they confused now that he's revealed? I was mighty confused about this. PseudoSherlock 17:43, 21 July 2006 (EDT)

I think right now, Murdock is off in Europe looking for Foggy's 'killer'. The identity of Daredevil's imposter has been revealed. Should I change the link from "Daredevil (unrevealed) to the link of the imposter?--Spidey:Weapon X 14:42, 27 July 2006 (EDT)

Sounds good to me. Obviously I don't read Daredevil... PseudoSherlock 14:49, 27 July 2006 (EDT)

Disturbed?

Hey was anyone else disturbed when Iron Man tried to basically kill Captain America in the recent Civil War issue? I mean fighting for a cause is one thing, but almost killing people for not believing in what you believe is just psychotic. In my opinion of course. -- mimicx35

That is true. But also, Captain America could have handled it better than striking the first blow. I doubt he would have changed Iron Man's mind, but a speech might have rallied some of the pro-regis guys to switch sides or something. On the other hand, that was a pretty ingenious blow by Cap, too bad it didn't actually do much. chizzaz 21:39, 20 July 2006 (EDT)

I agree, but whats the point. If he listened to iron mans proposal and still disagreed then they would be taken down anyway. Although i am still disturbed by Iron Man and his compatriots. -- mimicx35

I agree with you, mimic. And Captain America didn't really hurt Tony, he just shut off his armor so that he wouldn't be a threat. If he had tried to kill him first, I'd understand the reaction. But he only wanted to even the odds. PseudoSherlock 10:48, 21 July 2006 (EDT)

What do you mean he 'didn't hurt Tony'? He smashed him twice in the un-armored face with a metal shield! I'd be pretty pissed off too, and I sure as heck would get back up and beat the living crap out of Cap after that!--Spidey:Weapon X 13:52, 21 July 2006 (EDT)

Understandably Spidey, but i believe the only reason he wanted to take tony down was because he took down Wiccan and Cloack first. In fact he says "You shouldnt have taken my two boys down" or something along that line. ANd if tony really just wanted to talk with cap then y drag everyone on caps side out? Why not just let Tony show up instead of an army of cape-killers? Wouldnt that have been more likely. But i will reiterate that Iron Man took it way to far. He has stepped over the line more than once in his life. He used to be (or so he claims he isnt anymore) a Alcoholic. He helped to kill (or so he thought) the Supreme Intelligence. Hes a rich aristocrate who has enough money to probably end world hunger and can hire the best security to protect those he loves so he really doesnt need a secret identity. And AND he is very irresponsable and has always been jealous of cap and at almost every turn tried to prove that he is the better man. Why would any hero decide to follow such a man is beyond me. But thats just my opinion. --mimicx35

My point was that Captain America hit him, and then let him go. Because his ultimate aim was to disable him. However, Iron Man hit him back, and kept hitting, obviously intending to permanently injure him. Which isn't a surprise, as Captain America seems to be capable of reasonable restraint, and Iron Man can get out of control. PseudoSherlock 08:28, 22 July 2006 (EDT)

aw gee, as an Iron Man fan it's hard to see such abuse laid down on him. he's not perfect but that's always been part of the appeal of the character to me. In my experience he's a difficult character to portray, it's easy to make the rich guy a jerk. But the best IM issues in my mind are the ones where Tony does all he can to help the world as Iron Man and as Tony Stark, using his money for good rather than his own pleasures. The Tony Stark who invents things to help people and funds charities and the like. Why he is on the registration, I have no clue . . . like IM, don't like the side he's picked. Kill Cap, God I hope not, because that would be a very bad decision in my mind. Unless he comes back, but he'd have to come back. I know it's cool to break the rules or whatever some times, but . . . well, guess we'll see what the writers have in store. End of story, I feel Iron Man has been unfairly pounded recently and that his character is not always being handled well by Marvel these days. No offense to those guys, they're writers, much better at it than I I'm sure, so not an insult to anyone, just my opinion. --CypherHalo 22:45, 25 July 2006 (EDT)

Sides (again)

Alright, after reading Civil War #3, I put Ben Grimm on the Pro-Registration side, for the moment. Obviously it's an on-going story, and the hint at the end of the latest FF still implies that he'll be against the Registration, but for the moment he is reluctantly fighting on the Pro-Registration side. Though it's becoming clear that the Invisible Woman is sneaking off to help, as she wasn't at Johnny's side when he woke up. Also, why in the world has Thor been placed on the side of the Pro-Registration?? Did I miss something? At the end of Civil War #3 he suddenly appears...and that's it. Is there another issue I haven't read? It would also seem to be a LOT more interesting if he joined the Anti-Registration side, as the Anti- guys would just get beat up if he joined up with super-strong Iron Man. PseudoSherlock 10:52, 21 July 2006 (EDT)

Nevermind...while reading, I saw the "Codename: Lightning" bit. Geez, this whole thing is just unfair... PseudoSherlock 10:54, 21 July 2006 (EDT)

I was just as shocked that Spidey would allow this kind of action against Cap as I was him actually taking part in the melee. God save Cap and wouldn't Cable have spotted the trap rather than allowing all the heavy hitters of the underground to be caught in one place? Seems a little unlikely to me when you have such accomplished veterans in the resistance. - OleGravyLeg

It seems to me that what we could guess about what might happen is probably useless. Undoubtedly, things are going to flip-flop over and over throughout the storyline. As a matter of fact, my opinion is that Spider-Man is going to turn on Iron Man soon, and violently. I think they need this first, bloody, disturbing part of the story, so that the truly "good" heroes will the see the error of their ways, and turn back. Unfortunately, as a huge FF fan, I'm afraid that Reed is not going to turn back... PseudoSherlock 13:54, 21 July 2006 (EDT)

My predictions based on the preview of Civil War #4 (potential spoilers): A death: Captain America is obviously getting bloodied up here. I think he'll bite it. A funeral. Same. A betrayal. Spider-Man will turn on Iron Man. A team reborn. Spider-Man or other will take the helm of the anti reg side. Personally, I'm rooting for registration. With Iron Man, Thor, the Sentry (preview art suggests he is on Reg. side) and Spider-Man, it is hard to see them losing to the likes of Captain America, Daredevil, and the Young Avengers.

Not a bad notion. It would certainly make it interesting. But ugly. PseudoSherlock 15:57, 21 July 2006 (EDT)

I predict that Iron Man will push the X-Men and they will end up splitting between the sides, majority on anti-reg. Spider-Man will switch sides. The Human Torch will join anti-reg. That's all I think will happen. I haven't read Civil War: X-Men #1 yet, but I have seen the wallpaper to Civil War #5 and Spider-Man is all beat up and there are playing cards flying around, so Gambit is going to appear. Also, Venom is in the picture. To me, it seems like we are going to see many, many more superheroes! Very intriguing! chizzaz 02:11, 22 July 2006 (EDT)

Yeah, after VERY carefully studying Civil War #3, I saw the Invisible Woman standing against the Anti-Registration people, though she didn't take a swing. So I guess it's fair to put her in, too... PseudoSherlock 09:43, 23 July 2006 (EDT)

What side is Human torch on? everyone but him i think in the fantastic four has chosen a side so what about him? Xtreme112

Last I saw he had rolled over onto his left side.--MikeFichera 20:38, 31 July 2006 (EDT)

I'm pretty sure Human Torch will side with Anti-Registration after the attack he suffered. We might see the Fantastic 4 split down the middle on this one, that would be interesting to see.

The Torch is awake as of the last Civil War issue, a month ago. He walked out and asked where his sister was. PseudoSherlock 09:14, 5 August 2006 (EDT)

Yay! The Thing refused to take a side, but officially announced that he was against the Registration. But did anyone notice that FF 539 takes place BEFORE Civil War #3, and the Thing walks away, but yet he's fighting on the Pro-Registration side in #3? I really hope that when #4 is made he isn't drawn in... PseudoSherlock 08:26, 7 August 2006 (EDT)

Bios...

It almost funny to watch how this Civil War event puts people to do bios about the characters on the event who hasn't got one. I have seen like two three bios already and just waiting to see if there will be all of them done in end of this event. --Wezqu 20:15, 29 July 2006 (EDT)

I'm watching to see if anyone picks up Gladiatrix! :) --MikeFichera 20:38, 31 July 2006 (EDT)

Heh, I made Prodigy myself the character was nice addition to Civil War and sad thing was that he was the first to fall. I hope he would manage to escape. I might write the other members bios in the near future. --Wezqu 19:19, 1 August 2006 (EDT)

Unchosen

I began to just randomly think about some people who i think would be interesting to see choose sides in civil war... here are some of them. Howard The Duck U.S.Agent Blazing Skull Devil-Slayer Crimson Commando/Cyborg X Jack Flag Franklin Richards Beta Ray Bill Thor Girl Paladin (I think he actually registers? But I dont know for sure) Shroud ( I THink he also registers but then again im unsure) Power Pack mimicx35

This is an interesting idea. The "What If"s are numerous. Here's my 2 cents: would Ben Reilly have unmasked? --Lonesome Pinky 07:05, 4 August 2006 (EDT)

Hmmm that is an interesting question. But then again most of the spider ppl so far have followed peters lead. Now USagent would i believe register bc he loves america and to just p*** cap off. I dont know what War Machine is going to do since he and tony have somewhat of a grudge. And Beta Ray Bill hasnt been seen since his mini series ended. I have no idea what he would do. mimicx35


Julia Carpenter

Spoiler Warning!!! What do we classify Julia as since shes now gone rogue? Anti or Pro since she is registered? --mimicx35

Well my opinion is that there should be third category that includes all the characters that have been in the Civil War comics that haven't took a stance on the matter. Like John Jameson, Thing and others. --Wezqu 14:12, 10 August 2006 (EDT)

But getting back to the topic, I think she should be listed as Anti, since it should reflect their current point of view. --sononsj

Just because she registered, doesn't mean she's locked into an opinion. People switch sides. She's gone rogue = Cap's side. --MikeFichera 13:05, 11 August 2006 (EDT)


Although Spider-Man is by far my favorite character in the Marvel Universe, he very much seems the character who is able to turn the tide, tip the scale, and give one side a clear advantage. Although not the most powerful character, he seems to me, the most pivotol. In the beginning, Iron Man wanted his allegiance desperately, although just recently, Cap has made a play for the web-head. Why so much interest? Although the sides have been decided, nothing is ever final in the Marvel Universe. People change, and so do the sides. I think that if Spider-Man does switch sides, I think Iron Man is going to have his hands full. How many others will follow Spidey's lead? (If and when, he switches sides) Anyone else out there, agree with me? Spider-Man is more than just a supporting character. I think he is the turning point, and the key to victory. The only question is, what side will he take?--the darkone 12:54, 25 August 2006 (EDT)

Spider-Man VS Iron Man? Who wins?

Based on the info from this very website, the new cover for Amazing Spider-Man shows Spidey fighting Iron Man. Who wins? Who loses? I'd love to hear what others think as this could be one hell of a match-up. My own thoughts are cloudy. Cleary, Iron Man is in another strength class, and he did provide Spider-Man with the new suit.Will Spider-Man's agility alone be enough to save him? How can he, for any matter fight Stark in a suit Stark designed? Will Spider-Man be forced to ditch the new duds as this new suit could work against him? Sure, Spidey's beaten many foes from out thinking his opponents, but Stark's no dummy. Of course, I'm pulling for Spider-Man, I'm just at a loss as to how he's going to win. Sure, he's strong, but try beating on Iron Man for awhile. His armor is tough to break, making him hard to injure. How will he win? Stalemate? A draw? In the past, I've seen Spider-Man take on many enemies he could have lost to, but somehow he has managed to win. I know one of his greatest strength's has always been his anger, as Spider-Man is as ruthless as they come when pushed over the edge. What do the rest of you think? Until we see the results...any guess is as good as the next. Until the dust settles, make mine Marvel. --the darkone 17:29, 18 August 2006 (EDT)

Black Panther...Anti-Registration?!?

Here I thought he was neutral, preferring to stay in Wakanda, and ordering a cease-fire so he could marry Storm.

Teams

Since They have basically said that caps team is called the Secret Avengers, can we create a team bio for that? And Since Those allied with Stark have been called and calling themselves Cape-Killers... would that if we could make a team bio for them be thier name? --mimicx35

Well yeah they did say that. I think that it could be made and should, but that Cape-Killers isn't really those superheroes on the pro-side. Cape-Killers prefer more to the S.H.I.E.L.D.'s special unit that transport, collect and assist the heroes to capture the anti-side heroes. On my opinion is that Pro-side heroes aren't part of Cape-Killer unit they just work with them. --Wezqu 18:37, 22 September 2006 (EDT)

Quick Question Just something kinda hoaky but fun

Umm I recently have become extremely bored and have been creating these little civil war files based on characters intertwined with the Civil War. I was wondering if there was some way of posting a gallery of them which would link to the actual character bios? Well since you have no idea what I'm talking about then I will post a sample of one of the files I have created.


That looks awesome. I'm all for it. User:fantasticthing

Content Problems

Half of the characters listed as in training haven't even appeared in comics yet and some of them (I think) were added because one user thought they should be in training (such as Puma and Stingray). As far as I'm aware none of that has appeared in comics yet. Also, since Civil War is over now shouldn't the chart come down and be put into text format. Also some of these characters such as the Natural and U.S. Annie haven't been seen in Civil WAr related stuff (As far as I'm aware). Shouldn't the chart for where people are, be moved to a separate page for the Superhuman Registration Act itself and let this page just talk about the event which has already finished. The Registration Act page could chart where all the characters are now, but activities shouldn't be charted on an event page when they don't take place in that event. We have moved on to the Initiative stage now. All the updates should be moved somewhere else. Just my opinion

-- IRISH4869 08:49, 30 March 2007 (EDT)

Have you picked up the Civil War Battle Damage Report? You'll find a lot of info there. We're working on shifting gears to an Initiative Page, and letting this one be "closed" for all intents and purposes.--MikeFichera 14:27, 30 March 2007 (EDT)