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What is Marvel's official stance on the Hulk/Ghost Rider/Spider-Man/Wolverine version? This was little more than a joke in a two-part filler by Art Adams, at least the tone of the story was pretty tongue-in-cheek. On what level do they really count as members, officially? --Danny Waah! 10:30, 31 May 2006 (EDT)

Officially, they were hired by a Skrull posing as the Invisible Woman. So they aren't actual members, just unofficial replacements. PseudoSherlock 13:46, 2 June 2006 (EDT)

"Officially hired by a Skrull" is from the story perspective. I was asking from a company perspective. I don't think of them as official or unofficial members. Personally, I wouldn't want to see them listed at all in this article. I mean, are you going to add category:Fantastic Four to the Wolverine, Spidey, GR, and Hulk profiles? That doesn't make sense. But you could add such a category to Luke Cage, Medusa, Crystal, etc., and it would make sense. It's like considering Nebula/Termanatrix an Avenger because she got Dr. Druid to mind-control the Avengers into voting her in. But, hey, I guess I'm just a purist. :) --Danny Waah! 15:38, 2 June 2006 (EDT)

Well, at least in my opinion, the "company perspective" still has to look at the "comic perspective." And I would think that the qualifier for a member of the Fantastic Four, as opposed to any other group, perhaps, would be: A person who is employed by Fantastic Four Incorporated as personnel in the core team. All of the ones mentioned like Crystal and She Hulk were signed up by Mr. Fantastic (or someone representing his interests) in order to assist the team as a full member on a temporary basis. So when a Skrull, falsly acting in his place, hires those four, it would seem that they would then not be official. Other than that, you can ask what Marvel, the company, labels them, but my guess is that they would agree with the continuity. Luckily, the FF are unique in that they have a payroll and an incorporated status. The X-Men would be a little harder to argue about. PseudoSherlock 17:56, 2 June 2006 (EDT)

What I was trying to get at was the "company-as-a-business perspective" was something like trying to boost sales with marketable characters (while poking fun at the same) and getting Art Adams to write and draw something he likes. The "comic-as-an-internal-world" perspective is limited by what the characters would know within their own world. Which, incidentally, can also be spun to the idea that these people were brought together by a foe of the FF and aren't official members. So by breaking out my handy-dandy Official Handbook, we can find these people labeled "Alternate Fantastic Four Members . . . These four members have no official standing with the true FF" (emphasis added). --Danny Waah! 19:24, 2 June 2006 (EDT)

I agree with what you said, and I concur on the choice to label them as alternate members. PseudoSherlock 22:51, 2 June 2006 (EDT)


I think they should be added as former members. User:fantasticthing

Bio Text

Umm...why was the bio I wrote deleted, slightly edited, and put back up under sononsj's name? Seeing as how I wrote that from scratch, it would seem pretty rude to put in some character links and rob me of any credit/points. PseudoSherlock 13:46, 2 June 2006 (EDT)

I just did a VERY minor edit of the text, as well as changing Danny's "hoaxed" to "deceived," because despite what my MS Word says, I strongly disagree with the word hoax used as a verb (sorry, Danny). But my whole purpose in doing this is to regain my contributorship for the bio I wrote. I hope no one will be upset about that and will gladly approve my edit. PseudoSherlock 22:50, 2 June 2006 (EDT)

Well, as much as I am apt to make errors of the grammatological sort (and as much as I am to write original text as much as possible), that whole paranthetical section was lifted from the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe: Fantastic Four 2005. You can argue with those writers about the verbing of the word "hoaxed." (Although, I like the word "verbing.") --Danny Waah! 10:52, 5 June 2006 (EDT)

Touche. Well, I'm still uncomfortable with it, and if I could talk to them directly, I would. And I know there's a specific term for changing a noun into a verb...but I forget. (Just looked it up, it's called Anthimeria) Either way, I did change "a while" to "awhile" in the main part of the page, so hopefully someone will approve that so I can have my blasted credit back for writing the whole thing. PseudoSherlock 15:07, 5 June 2006 (EDT)

Uh, technically your change is incorrect. "For a while" is the correct version, since "while" is used as a noun in the prepostional phrase. "Awhile" is an adverb that would only be correct if the sentence would read "and though Scott stayed around awhile afterwards . . ." (taking out the "for") --Danny Waah! 21:40, 5 June 2006 (EDT)

Oh, cripes...well then, if it permanently stays as something no one will ever approve, but not delete, then I'll still keep my contributor status. Or I'll wait until I'm able to approve my own stuff and add some more information to regain my credit. PseudoSherlock 15:12, 6 June 2006 (EDT)

a little help

can someone tell me what went down in the to ff road to civil war issues?--thewatcheromega

About the Fantastic Four

What does everyone think about Sue and Reed having different ideas about the Cival War. I do not agree with Reed on this and I agree about Sue. I was very surprise about Spider Man but I sure everything will be interesting.

a little help

To the a little help. So far Reed is kinda for the Law that all Super heroes have to tell the government who they are. Sue seems to be not. I am not sure what the Thing things. I know though that the Human Torch is in a comma because of this Civil War. He was attack by normal citizens on a surprise attack I believe.

FF the Movie 2

I understand it, that there is to be a second movie of the FF with Siver Surfer. Am I crazy, did I just dream that or is true? I think it would be great. I'd also like to see some team ups, like Spidey and the FF or something like that in the future. Or does anyone think that's possible?--Venomocity 11:26, 28 July 2006 (EDT)

yeah i think i heard that too in a magizine about all upcoming movies and about the teaming up part yeah that would be a good idea but it will probley happen in the very very far future like spiderman 4 or something where i hope blckcat will come in so yeah its possible but theres a very low chance of it 20:18, 5 August 2006 (EDT)~

Yup, thats right, I watched the trailer of it! Its was awsome. Maby some heros will team up to fight Silver Surfer! --Adam--MarvelFan0987 14:53, 17 May 2007 (CDT)

funny parody

on www.newgrounds.com on toons then parodies you find alought of videos inspired by marvel like house of m part 1,2,3,and 4 ,dock ock , marvel villans assamble and my favorite is one where drdoom ,movie doom,ultimate doom,and doom 2099, try to take over the fantastic four and if youve watched them already comments anyone?20:26, 5 August 2006 (EDT)spiderman12901 20:26, 5 August 2006 (EDT)

yeah i thought it was funny like the begining part where thing tricks his girlfriend in to walking into a way saying okay the doors right here.13:12, 11 August 2006 (EDT)spiderman12901