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If you desire to have your profiles and posts approved, list the source where your information comes from. Be sure not to copy other pages such as Wiki, Comicvine etc... To do this would be considered plagiarism. I know that the information for the Force profile came from the Marvel Handbook, and that is just fine, be sure to use the summary box at the end of the profile box to add source material. --ohitsme 17:01, 4 June 2008 (EDT)

Hey Gtyper, it appears that you are trying to me, use discussion in tool, and post your reply, when you are finish with your reply, go to the top of this box and hit the second button on the right hand side of the box that will add you signature.--ohitsme 18:03, 4 June 2008 (EDT)

Oh, thanks for that! Can you help me out around here as I get my bearings? Maybe approve some of my stuff and show me things I might have done wrong?--gtyper 18:28, 4 June 2008 (EDT)

He can't approve your edits only moderators have right to approve someone elses edits as they know if the info is right. ohitsme and some other users only have self-approving rights that mean we are only allowed to approve our own edits. You just have to patient and wait some moderator to approve your profiles until you get the self-approving rights. Also just to note that moderators also do the handbook profiles so they have other things to do so if your edit doesn't get approved it either means there is something wrong or the moderators hasn't have time to check them. --Wezqu 18:43, 4 June 2008 (EDT)

Wezqu, do you ever find out if they decline it? Do they usually give a reason, or at least let you know, so you can rewrite or fix the issues? Here's a question - how did you find my talk page as being active? Do you search recent changes? Were you paying attention to a profile I edited? Just wondering, I'm still trying to feel my way around. --gtyper 18:47, 4 June 2008 (EDT)

I usually check the recent edits. I'm like the man who does small edits and fixes some mistakes. I also usually try to help new people who asks for help as the moderators don't always have time to answer everyones questions. Also to answer your question you don't know if they haven't approved it any other way than it won't show as approved. Your Force bio is approved only because ohitsme went and corrected something and approved it even if he should have not done so. It had still many mistakes as I listed some just under this message. Also I usually check almost every profile that changed but usually only bother with those that are approved as the unapproved wont show up on the site. Also moderators usually give reasons why they don't approve edits usually reason is that it either has too many mistakes or it has wrong information in it. Still moderators wan't the text to be clear of mistakes and typos. --Wezqu 19:34, 4 June 2008 (EDT)

Force bio

I'm now listing what is wrong in the bio Force you posted on the site so you don't make the same mistakes again. Always remember to write the text like it has happened as you seem to forget it in occasion. This also is major point to get them approved. If you say he is using a alias then list the alias so people know what alias he was using. Just saying he used a alias doesn't tell them who he said he was. Don't use roman numerals after the aliases like you did with Blizzard II that system was long time ago dropped as it caused trouble and people often got confused who should be first and who second. If you wan't to specify who the character was add the name in brackets after the alias. This sentence is low grade "The henchmen are dispatched by the teaming of Iron Man, Force and Jim Rhodes." try something like "They were proptly stopped by Iron Man, Jim Rhodes and reformed Wilson.". Also when you use the alias of the character use it only when he used it as it seems this character has been Iron Man. Its easy to avoid thiskind of mistake by using characters first or last name as the way to identify him not his alias as it might bring some confusion when you refer him as Force when he was using the Iron Man alias. Should this "Defense Under Secretary" be "Secretary of Defence" as that just sounds odd? If you have any more questions just asks. --Wezqu 19:24, 4 June 2008 (EDT)

Hey Wezqu, I was only trying to help the new guy get his feet wet. I noticed that he had been trying very diligently to contribute to this site. I did approve the Force when i was going through it and correcting the links and some spelling errors. It appears that I missed quite few of them. I Know it help me a lot when you guys took the time to help understand how things work here. I never knew that the mods. appointed you as the man, that does all the small edits and help all the new posters. I guess congratulations are in order. gtyper, if you need my help in any way, just let me know. You can leave me a message in my user talk. I apologize if you thought that I was a moderator, I can not approve your post but I can help you. --ohitsme 19:57, 4 June 2008 (EDT)

Wezqu - please check out the edits I've made. I think it's in the right voice now. Please make any pointers. Can you also check my Iron Man.

Ohitsme - thanks for your help as well. Mod or not, I appreciate the help.--gtyper 23:03, 4 June 2008 (EDT)

ohitsme you understood me wrong. I never said they appointed me I just answered his questions as I usually do small corrections here on the site and help new guys out with the rules. Like for example when you came here the first time many of the mods were busy with making handbooks and didn't really have time to this site as it is not so important than making sure that the book will be released in correct day and I helped you to get your pages up to the standards. I do this helping out of my goodwill towards the new users who might else feel little left out and think the moderators don't care about their contributions. Still I go by the rules they stated to me in the past. Also ohitsme I'm not judging you of helping him its quite good you to do so but stick with the site rules moderators were very strick of the only moderators could approve other peoples edits in the past and haven't heard that they would have changed their minds, but don't sweat it I myself have accidentally approved someones elses edits so its not always so big deal. Moderators only want to make sure no wrong information gets to the site. Also gypher I'm not a moderator either so you have wait someone else to approve that edit but I can check to see if I see any major mistakes and it looks good there really is no major mistakes so if the moderators see it most likely gets approved. You just have to patient until you get enogh points to get your self-approving rights. Keep up the good work. --Wezqu 23:51, 4 June 2008 (EDT)

Thanks Wezqu and Ohitsme. The fact that people like you exist out there that makes stuff like this doable and fun. I truly did feel confused, as this system isn't exactly intuitive. Can you both examine my changes to the Iron Man page? I think it expounds upon some major points and looks nicer than what's currently there ... and I'd love to make an edit to my all-time favorite character that sticks. --gtyper 23:57, 4 June 2008 (EDT)

I would suggess you to repost it but make sure you fix the same things I mentioned on the Force bio in the Iron Man bio. Those changed you made are quite frankly good but you still forgot to wrote it so that it has happened in the past and not now in the present. Moderators prefer good writing and it should always be like you were observing the happenings. Also its not really necesery to go too much in the details many times it works better than you try to be short but to the point and so that people understand the situation. For example one person edited Bishop page to say that he shot Professor X still he neglet to mention that in reality he accidentally shot the Professor X as he was really aiming at Cable. As you see that would give people the wrong perspective as they would think he intentionally shot the Professor. Also in Iron Man bio you made several small paragraphs that didn't look good. Try to fit stuff in couble large paragraphs as its looks better than several couble line paragraphs. If you really want it to be approved make sure its writen in right tense and doesn't have writing mistakes before you post it again. --Wezqu 00:14, 5 June 2008 (EDT)

Wezqu - I'm looking over my Iron Man changes, and can see some places to clean it up. Can I make those edits now without issue? Also, you made edits to the current Iron Man page and not the page I created, how do those merge together? Do they merge together? Can I make your edits to "my revision" or should I not? --gtyper 00:03, 5 June 2008 (EDT)

Just repost it if you want your edits to be approved as my edits overwrite yours. Still as I said before make sure there is no mistakes and the text is in right tense before you do so and it most likely gets approved. My best advice is that you copy what you wanted to change in the page to word or something fix it up there and repost it to bio so the edits I made keep in effect. Also just to point out that if you have character that doesn't use aliases he should be listed in the link as last name first and first name second like this Potts, Pepper so it will be easier to find in the categories. --Wezqu 00:21, 5 June 2008 (EDT)

Wezqu - I realized that about the naming on the site after I had already submitted Maya Hansen. I didn't know how to affect a change in the name to Hansen, Maya ... if you could help, that'd be great. Or should i just copy it to a new page with that naming style? Also, I redid the Iron Man stuff and really rewrote entire passages to get the tense right and I think it turned out alright. I also added a World War Hulk section. If you want, take a look at let me know what you think - I'm definitely open to learning because I want to contribute. --gtyper 03:48, 5 June 2008 (EDT)

You could copy the text to the new naming style the old page and then be made into a redirect as many people who would search the character would still search it with "Maya Hansen" and so it will be redirect them to the page. This you can only do as you were the one who made the bio so no contributions would be deleted, but never do it to any other bio. I checked the Iron Man page and it did look good but two minor things I did notice. Firstly as I said don't make paragraphs that are one or two lines long include them in the bigger paragraphs or compine them to form larger paragraphs as it doesn't look neat when there is those small paragraphs in middle of the bio. Secondly don't invent categories only use those that are already made. There is no Illuminati category so it should not be there. Admins are only ones who can create new categories. There might be more mistakes but I only checked it quickly. --Wezqu 13:22, 5 June 2008 (EDT)

Help

As a new user on this site, I'm really struggling to figure it out in terms of how to contribute and it's disheartening. No feedback, it seems like my own profile is in limbo and I can't even post in "talk" areas. Am I banned? Is the site messed up? Is anyone going to look at my contributions and give me feedback so I can make them better? HELP! --gtyper 19:52, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

Hi Gtyper, I do not think that you are banned, I did figure out why I was not able to see what you were writing and I did check your stuff. It appears to be up to snuff, but only a moderator can approve it. There is one thing I did notice, when replacing a Headshot the picture that you are replacing should be used as an inline image. You should only change a Headshot if a character has had a change in costume or you have better image, say that the original has text in, or the main character is not the focal point of the Headshot (two or more other characters in the foreground). --ohitsme 19:22, 15 June 2008 (CDT)

Are the mods busy since the movies have been released? I'm glad you found my stuff was up to snuff, I just wish there was more "communication" so that newbies like me didn't feel disheartened. I thought the headshot I provided on Iron Man "was" better than the older one. Simply because the costume in the foreground was an old costume AND it highlighted the Civil War which ended. Not sure about the "inline image" thing, I just used the thing that was there. --gtyper 20:37, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

The Mods. are working on the new Handbooks, which I here is a very time consuming process, you could send a PM message to them on the message boards, although I not sure if it will speed up the process of approving your profile. I just kept posting and eventually one of them came along and approved a bunch of my stuff. As far as the image thing goes use the following link Help:Cheat sheet, and read this page carefully and this will help with the image problems. I hope that this helps you out. --ohitsme 20:09, 15 June 2008 (CDT)

Hi...sorry for your frustration. The site has technical difficulties as post approvals aren't sticking, and some changes are evaporating after an expiration time. We've sat down with the folks at Marvel, and it's one of the many areas on the things to do list. Moderation also needs more dedicated professional staffing. We're hoping for a resolution soon. Your Maya profile looked very good - keep the writing tense all in the past tense, however. It's all stuff that has happened. Again, apologies for being in limbo. --MikeFichera 16:57, 2 July 2008 (EDT), mod