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I approved your Carnage profile, but in the future, a couple of things to watch: Watch your verb tenses. It's a history, so keep it in the past tense. Also, don't refer to story arcs - pretend you're in the Marvel Universe telling a characters bio. Don't criticize story arcs or poor continuity in the bios either - "numerous retcons", etc. --MikeFichera 00:38, 3 March 2006 (EST)

Guidance on bios

Liquidviper, Please follow the format seen in the other bios. Do not talk about the comic issues - we're writing their bios as if we're in the stories. Do not criticize the writers.--MikeFichera 00:19, 7 March 2006 (EST)

Sorry, I must have seen the info while researching the character. I didnt mean to criticize any writers. In the future i'll be more careful in what I out down.--Liqiudviper 7:20, 9 March 2006 (EST)

Not a problem - not trying to make this pick on Liquidviper day, but I can't approve your Ben Reilly post as is. This is a new site, and it's a learning process, so don't feel too bad. Your edit basically replaced all the existing text (that was published in the Offical Handbook - execept for 1 paragraph blooper that I just repaired) with word-for-word text from the two sites you listed. While I'm glad you cited the reference, they're not Marvel owned citations, and pose some problems. If your citing a scan made from "Scarlet Spider #1", that's fine - it's Marvel's. If you're quoting the Official Handbook, that's fine - it's owned by Marvel. If you pick up one of the DK hardcover books on the Spider-Man, let's say, and copy word for word from there, that's not so good. Non-Marvel websites, even if they're non-profit, are the same. Apply the rules from school on plagery - read a source, reference it, then write it in your own words. There's a lot of detail to Ben's history you added from the other sites. I would recommend using the history that's existing, and add the new info in your own words to it (elaborating on the Missing Years for example). --MikeFichera 14:33, 9 March 2006 (EST)

new bios

  1. Go to (substitute the appropriate template if you are doing a team, event, etc.)
  2. Copy the invocation code on that page
  3. Go to the blank page for the entry you wish to create. (i.e. name)
  4. Click edit.
  5. Paste the invocation code into the edit box. This will set up the appropriate formatting.
  6. Fill in the data points as needed.

--pete 23:12, 8 March 2006 (EST)

About my plagiarizing comment

I wasn't refering to Mike, I don't think. I was refering to the guy that wrote the Josiah X profile. Go to and then look at the Josiah X profile on the site. They're identical. That would be plagiarizing, I just wanted to know how to report them properly befoe something went down that could easily be avoided. I would send a message to the person responsible, but I don't think they'd get it. Again, I'm not trying to be a jerk. -- IRISH4869

Profile edits

Regarding the Wolverine profile, I edited your original changes to remove incorrect/unrelated information and also mention of a title/issue in the history text only to find that you'd changed it all back. Please do not overwrite the changes again. -- ComiX-Fan

Liquidviper, please watch the spelling and grammatical errors. There are numerous throughout the Captain America profile you just approved. A profile with that many errors in it should *never* be approved. -- ComiX-Fan

liqiudviper, please run spellchecks before saving pages, and proofread them more closely. I'm not trying to pick on you, but I wouldn't have approved your Ultimate Venom profile with the several errors it currently has; since you are able to post without approval, you must be more careful with spelling and formatting. Notably incorrect in the profile in question: "occupation = Villain" - Eddie Brock was a student. Villain is not an occupation. "relatives = "Mother (unknown)" - if we know he had a mother, but she was not named, then the proper format is either "unidentified mother" or "mother (name unrevealed)" "hair = none" - Venom may not have hair, but Eddie does. "use tendrils for combat any moving throughout the city." - should be "and moving throughout the city" Since no one else is now proofchecking you before your edits go through, please proofcheck your work more closely. "There fathers had worked" - should be "Their fathers had worked"

"using two samples from a Suit he found in his father's fridge that was originally created from Richard Parker's DNA." - this sounds like the fridge was made from Richard's DNA.

"One small sample of the suite bonded with Peter" -suit, not suite. You repeat the mistake a line later, suggesting this isn't a typo.

"The suite quickly overwhelmed him he through it into a smokestack to destroy it." - should be "and he threw it into a smokestack"

"Eddie was furious at Peter for trying to destroy there birthright used the second suit;" - first, it should be "their birthright", secondly the grammar is wrong. It should either be "Eddie, furious at Peter for trying to destroy their birthright, used the second suit" or "Eddie was furious at Peter for trying to destroy their birthright and used the second suit"

As I've said, I don't want to get at you, but if you are to post to profiles without admin approval, you need to be more careful. Stuart Vandal 18:48, 12 March 2006 (EST)

By the way, where did you get the info for the ultimate Venom bio. I couldn't find much information on him. Just wondering.--Liqiudviper

From the comics. In this case, its from the Ultimate Handbook, for which I was head writer, but the original source was the comics. Always go to the primary source - don't rely on websites. Stuart Vandal 20:31, 12 March 2006 (EST)

Profile editing

Viper - Please, follow the Handbook Writers' leads, especially on style, formatting, and sourcing. If you have questions, please try to check with them before making a change to a bio. If you are not able to match the style and post with correct spelling and grammar, we'll be forced to knock you back down to regular user status for a while.

We really appreciate your enthusiasm and contributions here, but we also need to manage the style and accuracy of our database. The handbook writers are helpful and will help guide your posts, so please use them. --pete 09:23, 13 March 2006 (EST)

Ultimate Namor

I've created a bio for Ultimate Namor, look over it and see if it meets your approval and help fill in the stats(my Ultimate Venom stats were way off).If it's ok then I'll make all my bios like it and if not then tell me what I'm doing wrong.--Liqiudviper

Okay, not too bad, and definitely showing improvement. Spelling all good, grammar all good. Two things to look at. The most important is tense - with the possible exception of a finishing sentence which tells us "Character A is currently working at Pizza Hut" the tense should stay in the past. This is history we are relating. You've slipped into present tense for a lot of the profile. Slightly less vital is the style; you've related the story as if someone was reading the comic. The first section, about Sue and Johnny's mother returning isn't really relevant to Namor (it would be to Sue and Johnny though). And you've given the information about Namor being a prisoner as a revelation, just the way the comic did. While that's not unacceptable by any means, generally speaking, the preferred style is to narrate the entry almost like the Watcher would - he would have seen it all happen in chronological order (Namor was imprisoned and entombed, Namor's tomb was found by the mother of Sue and Johnny, Namor is released, the FF learn Namor's tomb was really a prison, etc). Overall though, a definite improvement. Fix the tense, consider redoing the style to fit the norm, but otherwise, keep it up. Stuart Vandal 17:00, 13 March 2006 (EST)

The tense and style of the Ultimate Namor bio are fixed. Look over it when you get a chance.--Liqiudviper

Much, much better. Missed a couple of capital letters in Baxter Building, which I've fixed, but otherwise a vast improvement on what was already a pretty decent profile. Keep it up. Stuart Vandal 19:07, 13 March 2006 (EST)

Nova Pic

Liqiudviper, They need to adjust the headline for the current Nova profile (it should say Nova (Frankie Raye)). The Nova picture that you put up was for Richard Rider, who doesn't have a profile of his own yet. I'll get right on it and use your pic if that's cool? But for now I'm going to take it down so it doesn't confuse anyone. Just wanted to run it by you cause I'm trying to be polite. Shoot me back if you got something -- IRISH4869 March 13

Liquidviper, go to Nova and put the picture there. --IRISH4869 March 14

Ultimate Invisible Woman

I just created a bio for Ultimate Susan Storm, but I'm not sure if the stats are spot on. Just thought you should know.--Liqiudviper

Looks okay overall. I made a few tweaks, but nothing too major. One thing which you got wrong, but for understandable reasons - Sue and Johnny's father is Franklin Storm, not William. Both are used in the Official Handbook, because his name changed from William in the original scripts where he was named to Franklin by the time the comic was printed, and not all the instances of the old name were caught before the Handbook was printed. Stuart Vandal 04:35, 14 March 2006 (EST)

Black Tom

Regarding the Black Tom profile, a bio already exists for him as "Cassidy, Black Tom", so no need to create a new entry for him. --ComiX-Fan 06:12, 16 March 2006 (EST)

Doc Ock?

Viper, why the change to 6'1"? What's your source? He's 5'9"?--MikeFichera 17:19, 16 March 2006 (EST)


I must concur. I don't know how many there are out there but it does seem like it happens more and more. I've been doing alot of formating corrections on some of these idiotd that have been approving their own posts. They should kick the points to like fifty or 100 if not hire. I'm at 400+ so they won't come anywhere near me anytime soon. I'll probably be somewhere near 1000 by next weekend if I keep up the pace I've been on the last couple of days. I think I have the most new entries of any single newbie (somewhere around 60 or 70 I think). They really should just cap the number of supervisors at a certain number and let that be the end of it. Everyone being a supervisor is going to be more problems then needed.

On a side note I know you're more into the pics and stuff and I'm more into the writing, maybe you should follow up on some of the profiles I've done and give them some pictures. Portal, Coronary, Psionex, Mathemanic, Night Shift, many more. - see you around the funny pages. -- IRISH 07:49, 17 March 2006 (EST)

Captain America

Yesterday you wiped clean the Captain America entry, removing the entire text. Stopping people doing silly things like that is why most people cannot post without being moderated. I'm going to reinstate the profile, but be MUCH more careful in the future. Stuart Vandal 10:47, 19 March 2006 (EST)

Thor Donald Blake?????

Viper what is that???? C'mon man. You are just going to confuse everyone and you know stuart's going to delete it. He might even revoke your privelges. Donald Blake doesn't exist on 616. He never did. He was a construct created by Odin. Unless you get to the Godpack stuff. And then it gets really confusing. -- IRISH4869 21:11, 21 March 2006 (EST)

Sorry I didn't realize comicXfan created it. I'm yelling at him now. -- IRISH4869 21:15, 21 March 2006 (EST)

Did you read the reason for the Thor move? To distinguish the original from the Eric Masterson version. --ComiX-Fan 21:19, 21 March 2006 (EST)

Eric, read my post on your profile. I would've posted on your discussion page but I was prevented from doing so by Marvel, something about a line error. -- IRISH4869 21:27, 21 March 2006 (EST)

Gwen's Headshot

Viper, I just spent hours scanning and composing Gwen's headshot. Please don't switch headshots unless they've been up for a very long time, or the image is poor resolution. That just went up today.(that's a picture of Sarah Stacy, Gwen's daughter, by the way). --MikeFichera 22:00, 21 March 2006 (EST)

Viper, please refer to the help page for guidelines concerning image replacement. --ComiX-Fan 22:41, 21 March 2006 (EST)


go ahead and create the bio with the default picture and I'll upload that one once it's up. --pete 09:02, 23 March 2006 (EST)

emorton posted the eternity pic yesterday --pete 10:03, 28 March 2006 (EST)

Spidey 2099

Viper - I see Miguel is posted -good! Where'd you get the height/weight stats from? Also, Conchata didn't die in 2099 - she was shown to be alive in Manifest Destiny. Check your spelling.--MikeFichera 23:03, 23 March 2006 (EST)

Emorton Mystery

My response? So?? But good job figuring it out. Now figure out why Chris Claremont hasn't retired yet. BTW I am not trying to sound snarky, just smartassassin. -- IRISH4869 23:48, 31 March 2006 (EST)


Charcoal is not dead. There is no text saying he is dead, you and dragynwulf are merely assuming that he is. His body is composed of non-organic materials similar to Hydro-Man or Sandman and when their molecules are separated they can piece themselves back together, so why not charcoal?????????? Why do you guys keep making him dead???? -- IRISH4869 22:00, 1 April 2006 (EST)

Calm down, it'll be ok. He'll be asumed dead until he pops back up, or he could be in a permanent dirt nap. Either way, I don't really care. --Viper 34:00, 1 April 2006 (EST)

Supreme Power and other non 616 realities

I am fairly certain that the powers that be want us to draw some distinction between realities when posting profiles of characters that are non 616 in origin. I have been following the precedent already set by whomever created the Redeemers profile for the Earth-712 (the prime Squadron supreme reality, brought to light by the awesome Mark Gruenwald) which is Redeemers (Earth-712). All Supreme Power characters should be done this same way, otherwise it could get confusing rather quickly. I was going to do all of these characters myself over the next couple of days to avoid the confusion it would inevitably cause others, but now I cannot so I am asking you to follow the examples already made. Hyperion (Mark Milton) doesn't work because how does that seperate him from Hyperion from Earth 712 or King Hyperion????? They are all Mark Milton. This does not draw distinction. Are you going to do the same with Nighthawk (Kyle Richmond)????? Even 616 has one of those. You should petition one of the moderators to move the Hyperion entry to Hyperion (Earth-31916) before it causes other users to follow suit. Just my opinion. -- IRISH4869 22:24, 1 April 2006 (EST)

I can't move him, so how about I cange his universe to earth 31916. --Viper 34:00, 1 April 2006 (EST)

Rhino Pic

Viper - What, do you have a spycam on me? Were you just perched at the keyboard waiting for me to post Rhino this weekend? 6 minutes after the text goes up, while I'm working on my scan, making the artwork look all pretty, there's a headshot already posted!?!! Gotta be a new record set! --MikeFichera 23:50, 2 April 2006 (EDT)

King Hyperion Pic

Hey Viper do you think you could find a pic of King Hyperio after he shaves his head? Preferably one without word balloons. -- IRISH4869 11:58, 3 April 2006 (EDT)


Sorry - no Charcoal. Unresolved legal issues re: character ownership.--MikeFichera 12:34, 3 April 2006 (EDT)

New MJ Pic

Viper - who drew the new MJ pic you posted? It'! Makes the smaller one of the similar "you just hit the jackpot" pose a bit redundant now. Prob should swap it out for something new.--MikeFichera 01:43, 8 April 2006 (EDT)

Reasons for edits

Viper, can you please ensure you include a reason for each of your edits? It will make it easier for us to keep tabs on all the updates.

Also, can you please ensure that the pics you post are of the proper characters? Recently you posted pics of Defenders, Mentor and Lifeguard that weren't actually those characters. Plus, you're still replacing images that don't need replacing - such as Gambit. Please ensure you follow the image posting rules. --ComiX-Fan 04:25, 8 April 2006 (EDT)

Ok, I'll start including reasons for my edits, and on the Gambit thing, a user replaced the image with one of Gambit as one of the Four Horsemen and I couldn't revert the image (I couldn't even find the image), so I replaced it with one of mine.--Viper

Well, that is Gambit's current look, so why revert it to an older one? A little common sense, please. Don't revert that image again. --ComiX-Fan 22:19, 8 April 2006 (EDT)


LV, Dragynwulf lost all his credits a few weeks ago. I was in the process of deleting the entries so he could repost them again and receive his proper Hero Points and crediting. Yesterday, after I deleted Taskmaster for him (see comments next to the deletion record - (Deletion log); 13:16 . . MikeFichera (deleted "Taskmaster": Deletion for Dragynwulf's crediting) ), it looks like you uploaded a new version of him. I can't rectify which bio is more accurate or complete. Would you mind if we let DW post his version, and then you can make your updates and tweaks once it's up?--MikeFichera 08:35, 8 April 2006 (EDT)

That's fine, I didn't notice that Taskmaster was one of the characters that you were letting Dragynwulf repost. I'll tweak it (assuming it needs tweaking), once it's back up.--Viper

super, thanks - so who drew MJ???--MikeFichera 16:46, 8 April 2006 (EDT)

I don't know, I can't find an artist name or signiture anywhere, give me a little time and I might be able to find out.--Viper 21:16, 8 April 2006 (EDT)

It looks like Mike Mayhew using a John Romita Sr. sketch as his concept. -- IRISH4869 18:01, 8 April 2006 (EDT)

Squadron Supreme

Viper, don't add any squadron entries or adjust any of the ones I've created. I'm going to do them all by Tuesday and they'll be as complete as I can make them so just wait til then to update or whatever. -- IRISH4869 19:21, 8 April 2006 (EDT)

Ok, the squadron's all yours--Viper 23:25, 8 April 2006 (EDT)


Viper, please don't ever post a GIF as an image as they are not of high enough quality. --ComiX-Fan 22:17, 8 April 2006 (EDT)

I only inlarged Irish's image, he was responsible for the gif image.--Viper 02:26, 8 April 2006 (EDT)

IT WAS ME!!!! I think a gif is better then nothing at all. Why not just leave it up til you get something better? -- IRISH4869 22:31, 8 April 2006 (EDT)

No. A poor quality image is not better than nothing at all. Please follow the Image guidelines on the Help:Posting page. --ComiX-Fan 22:36, 8 April 2006 (EDT)

"taking down all the poor quality images on the orders of ComiX-Fan" - there's no need to be smart about it, viper. I merely asked you to follow the posting guidelines, as I would any other poster. --ComiX-Fan 22:51, 8 April 2006 (EDT)

Don't stress Viper

Viper, feel free to IM me man. My SN is same as my login. -- IRISH4869 23:19, 8 April 2006 (EDT)

my AIM name is allstatevhs(high school thing), it's the only one I use--Viper

Arranger Pic

Viper - My name is on the Arranger filename since I penciled half of that picture with Sal Buscema for the Handbook. Only the left half of Arranger was in Sal's original shot, and I fleshed out the rest to provide a full body shot with the other half of his torso, arm, legs, and feet. I was uncredited in the book, but I posted my credits here.--MikeFichera 00:11, 9 April 2006 (EDT)

Ok, cool, are you mad at me for changing it? The only reason I changed the name was to not upload over your image. You can change it back if you want.--Viper 00:17, 9 April 2006 (EDT)

I changed it back - it's one of the few pieces of my art Marvel's published (so far), so I'm a bit protective of it. Regardless of this one case being "mine" - in general, keep in mind the posts above after you swapped out my Gwen headshot. The site's guide says, "Existing images should only ever be replaced if they are of poor quality, or if they depict a subject other than the one being profiled." And I'd add onto that the "mold" factor - after awhile (like, many months, next year) if an image is getting green and fuzzy, a swap out is ok. Spidey gets a new costume, ok. But one of the concerns before the site launched was that someone would spend hours digging through their comic collection to find the right pic, scanning it with their new scanner, and excitedly submit their first image and bio, and then WHAMMO! It's replaced by another headshot in a matter of hours. Then a replacment image war ensues, back and forth. Haven't seen a war start yet, but lots of headshot swaps. Low res images, swap 'em out. But if the pic is good, leave it alone. Enhance the bio with some mini inline pics. I didn't say anything about MJ, since it's such a great image- but the previous one from Deodato took me a long time to find the images I wanted, crop them out, and make the montage look nice. I wasn't happy to see it gone already. So, I moved it to the bottom of the profile.--MikeFichera 00:40, 9 April 2006 (EDT)

Yea, I know how it feels spending time scanning and tweaking the crap out of an image and it's replaced the next day. Sorry --Viper 00:53, ( April 2006 (EDT)

And yet, you continue to do it even after being told repeatedly when the only times an image should be changed are. Enough is enough, please viper. --ComiX-Fan 02:12, 9 April 2006 (EDT)


Viper, what part of "Existing images should only ever be replaced if they are of poor quality, or if they depict a subject other than the one being profiled.", which you were reminded of only yesterday, don't you get? Why did you decide to replace the Fusion image, which was fine, almost the moment the profile was made by another poster? Stuart Vandal 21:23, 9 April 2006 (EDT)

It wasn't made by him, and I uploaded the original image along time(months) ago, I found a better image.--Viper 21:44, 9 April 2006


Viper, Sandman's history is almost word for word from - it's coming down. The recent Sinister 6 didn't have Doc Ock in it either: Sandman formed the 6 to go after Ock. C'mon, Viper, you've been doing this for awhile, you know the Rules: "Do not copy or paraphrase text from non-Marvel sites." --MikeFichera 01:01, 10 April 2006 (EDT)

That wasn't my source, but I see your point. I'll rewrite the bio.--Viper 1:05, 10 April 2006 (EDT)

Could you please clarify what your source was, then? The only source we like to see used are the original issues. --ComiX-Fan 05:33, 10 April 2006 (EDT)

Or handbooks right Eric? -- IRISH4869 13:55, 10 April 2006 (EDT)

Thanks anyway

Even though i've been set straight about the Arana / Ezikiel thing thanks for tryin to help anyway,nice work on her bio by the way--david andrews 09:27, 10 April 2006 (EDT)

It very rare when someone actually thanks me for something, I appreciate it very much.--Viper 14:22, 10 April 2006 (EDT)

Thanks for being so darn special viper. -- IRISH4869 14:25, 10 April 2006 (EDT)

Another Question

Hey just wanted to ask you this question before some OTHER guy answers it,nah i'm just kidding but still I do have a question for you is Ezikiel in the Arana books Ezikiel after he died in the spidey books or before? If its after does this mean he's not really dead? I know i should read the books to find out but i only have a couple.--david andrews 17:44, 10 April 2006 (EDT)

Ezikiel is in the Arana books before he sacrifices himself on Spidey's behalf. I'm afraid old Zeq's taking a permanent dirt nap.--Viper 18:05, 10 April 2006


I would have liked to see more of Ezikiel he seemed such a cool guy, but still thanks for the info plus I actually do have those books, I'm all about spidey comics just not so much of a knowlage on Arana. Thanks for clearing that up for me. david andrews 18:30, 10 April 2006 (EDT)

Editing/recoloring images

Could you please not take an image I uploaded, recolor the background to black and then call it your own? I took a few hours to scan, make color touch ups and even recolored some areas for Blood Spider, Jagged Bow and Deathshield to make them look better. About 10 minutes after I had it uploaded you altered the image. I don't appreciate it at all.

Easy there sparky, I'm the one who approved the images, and If I wanted to make them my own I would have re uploaded and put them in the bio without giving you any credit. I even congratulated you on the images on your user talk page. I was just trying to make them similar to the ones put up by the others. If it will make you feel any better you can save and re upload my tweaks to your image in your name.--Viper 20:48, 12 April 2006 (EDT)

In case you know it or not, you took the credit by altering and uploading the images. You completely redid the background of the image for Deathshield and uploaded it again (thus getting credit for it).

You re-uploaded the Taskmaster image again and took credit for that image. And all you did was increase the file size of the image. Something I could have done, but downgraded it to fit the intended/requested size for images. (thus you took credit for it). If you plan on doing this the images I take the time (hours in some cases) to scan, alter (recolor, remove characters, etc.) only so you can quickly alter it yourself and take the credit. Then I have no use for taking the time out of my day for something like that.

If you check the Deathshield bio your name is at the front of the contributors list, and the reason my name is at the front of the contributors list in the Taskmaster bio is because I edited the stats and text, not the image. If you want your name at the top of the upload log of the image feel free to re-upload it. I'm not trying to be mean or p*** (EDITED BY MJF) you off , after all I did approve the images your getting so upset about. Calm down, take a deep breath, I'm also approving these user talk entries, I could have just ignored you.--Viper 21:31, 12 April 2006 (EDT)

I am not talking about the bio contribution. I am talking about the image contributions.

Mine telling me what the purpose of altering the images I already uploaded have? The images were just fine the way they were in the first place. And to "reward me" for uploading images you change the Taskmaster image back to the original image I had uploaded, but only after you altered it first?

I'm bored with this conversation, *changing subject*, if you didn't notice, you are now one of the elite, with your newly found power you can make edits without anyones approval, approve your own and other's contributions, and pretty much everything else. If you have any questions just throw'um at me.--Viper 22:47, 12 April 2006 (EDT)

That's enough, Viper

Dragynwulf, Viper does not speak on behalf of He was rewarded with enough Hero Points to be given greater access on the site. Viper - your attitude responding to Dragynwulf here is awful. First, telling him your bored is rude and disrespectful and not behavior we expect of someone given editorial priviledges here. Secondly, "p--s off" is vulgar and I've edited it out. You may consider it minor league vulgarity, but it's one of the "7 Dirty Words" on a kid friendly site. Technically, vulgar language is grounds for dismisal. Read the rules:

Keep all language neutral, factual, brief and informative. ...Marvel has the best fans anywhere, so this goes without saying, but vulgar, abusive, offensive, racist, defamatory, or other inappropriate language will not be tolerated. Marvel reserves the right to block users permanently who break these rules.

Third, you did the same thing to me with the Arranger pic mere days ago, and I reminded you (posted above on April 9th) about the policy on replacing images. --MikeFichera 23:53, 12 April 2006 (EDT)

C'mon Mike, I've seen worse on other user talk pages, It seems like every time I make a tiny mistake I get grilled, when other users get by with these kind of things on a daily basis. I was just trying to appease Dragynwulf. I even told him that he could revert or re-upload if he wanted to. About the image, I was just trying to make the image similar to the other images on the site, as was the case with your image, I had know idea he was such a Taskmaster fanboy , I was even trying to help him out by approving his images in the first place, the last time I tried to help someone I was scolded as well. Guess I'm Viper the example boy.--Viper 00:32, 13 April 2006 (EDT)

You seem to keep forgetting that you're not a sysop, viper. You only have auto-approval powers - that doesn't make you a sysop. Please don't abuse the privilege by speaking down to other posters. --ComiX-Fan 23:06, 13 April 2006 (EDT)


Viper, you crack me up dude. It's cool. I still like ya. If it ain't right, fight the power brother. -- IRISH4869 02:17, 13 April 2006 (EDT)

Viper, I know you just had an arguement with him. But, have you noticed how Dragonwolf has been all over Marvel Universe making small useless acticles. marvels 09:36, 13 April 2006 (EDT)

Such as? Everything I've seen from DragynWulf thus far have been good additions to the MU. --ComiX-Fan 23:07, 13 April 2006 (EDT)

Comics-Fan I've seen you say things that would suggest that you would take his side but, from my point of view he(DragonWolf) has a one track mind(Taskmaster). I would be knocked off my feet with suprise if I ever even saw his(Taskmaster's) name in a comic again. I know eveeryone is entitled to a favorite character, but that entitlement stops at pushing it all over the place. I know you guys want a completely accurate "MU" but, how about taking care of the characters that have an affect on the "MU" first. And one more thing, I think there should not be an article until there is a good image to with it at the top, no more articles without an image. marvels 15:48, 14 April 2006 (EDT)

Taskmaster is currently being shown in SPIDER-WOMAN: ORIGIN and will be making an upcoming appearance in a new title. I won't give the name of that title out for those that do not wish to be spoiled, you can check out the Cup O'Joe interview at Newsarama or my Taskmaster website for that information if you or others care to. Also, Taskmaster has made well over 60 appearances in comics alone. This does not include his mini-bust, the two action figures, appearances in every Marvel RPG, an appearance in every comic on the subscriptions page during an entire year, on the OHOTMU poster (a poster made of all the covers to the original series) and numerous other things. So he has had an effect on the Marvel Universe. As for the Marvel Universe, it is just that. A "universe". It takes all characters no matter how big or how small they are to make up that universe because they all have an effect on the Marvel Universe. No matter how big or how small that effect is they still have one.DragynWulf 21:39, 14 April 2006 (EDT)

Hey my favorite character ever has only appeared once. Any guesses as to who it is???? -- IRISH4869 03:23, 15 April 2006 (EDT)

See that is just what I was saying Taskmaster this Taskmaster that. I have a favorite and it's easy to find out, but I'm also all over place and I don't push my guy on everone. If some radom person who did not read comic came to this area they would think that Taskmaster so was some uber villian(which he is not). I used the wrong word when I said useless, I did not have the word to say that you were making more of him than is necessary. Anyway you are giving the wrong idea with all of these Taskmaster and Taskamster related edits. Yes it should be on here but not before some other things, Taskamster has a place in the "MU" but it is not the fore front like you would like, and I am sorry for that. It is not that I have a problem with Taskmaster(he is your main interest and I reepect that)but, you've pushed him into so much around here that it gets old. marvels 12:30, 15 April 2006 (EDT)

I'm away for two days and I miss an argument(on my user-talk!), gah, I can't leave you guys alone for two seconds.--Viper 16:32, 15 April 2006 (EDT)

Taskmaster is a pretty good villain. I hated what they did with him in later issues of Deadpool, Agent X and the Taskmaster mini (that costume was AWFUL). But his first appearance was classic. Gotta give the character credit. Not the best villain, but far from the worst.-- IRISH4869 17:54, 15 April 2006 (EDT)

The links are there for cross referrance with other characters pertaining to the events in the history of that character. It is not my fault that Taskmaster has a history with Spider-Man, Captain America, Ant-Man, Diamondback, Crossbones, Red Skull, Avengers, Anaconda, Wolverine, Nomad and many other characters within not only the Marvel Universe, but the Ultraverse as well. And as I already mentioned, it doesn't matter what characters get listed before say Captain America for example. If no one wants to make a bio of Captain America, it is not the fault of those that wish to make bios for every other character. No one character is not important enough to be added to this website. The Main Page states the following: The Marvel Universe is a user-generated online encyclopedia of all things Marvel. It's THE definitive online place to find out about the people, places, and things that make up the Marvel Universe of characters. If someone wants to only make bios for one character, they can. If they want to make bios for one category of characters (Avengers, Spider-Man, etc.) they can. If they want to make bios about any character(s) they want to, they can. There is no list of which character bios have to be done before any other character can be done. You create the character bios you want to create in order to create the best online encylopedia about the Marvel Universe. This includes anyone from the original Fixer from DAREDEVIL #1 (1964 ??) to Wolverine to the crime boss Slug. If you want to see certain character bios entered into the encyclopedia, then feel free to enter them. But you can't complain about others not placing the characters you want to see in the encyclopedia. As for the "Most linked to pages", Taskmaster only has 26 total unlike more popular characters like X-Men (104), Spider-Man (69), Ultimate (53), Wolverine (53), M (52), Imperial Guard (48) and others. And just so you know, I have made other bios non Taskmaster related. So I don't "push" Taskmaster down anyone's throats. If you don't want to click on a link to that page, you don't have to. It is your choise to do so. DragynWulf 19:14, 15 April 2006 (EDT)

Sorry I'm done. marvels 14:19, 17 April 2006 (EDT)

Sinister Six Pic

The in-line pic you uploaded to replace mine has dissapeared.

They do that sometimes, I'm not sure exactly why. I'll get right on it, oh and if you didn't see the inline, it's your picture just resized with a border. --Viper 17:42, 18 April 2006 (EDT)

I guessed as much. Good job. cactusrob 10:13, 19 April 2006 (EDT)

Chucking Pics

You seem to be chucking pics we have no replacement for. Sure a bad quality pic isn't better than none at all? cactusrob 19:06, 22 April 2006 (EDT)

Nope, guidelines say that no image is better than a poor quality image. Well, no they don't but I've been informed by the Mods that this is a fact and the guidelines do say that all images must be high quality. Plus I like typing chucked --Viper 17:54, 25 April 2006 (EDT)

Fair enough. :D But what are we to do with characters with no decent images? I just guess they will stay blank forever. cactusrob 05:42, 27 April 2006 (EDT)

creators no more

Viper, FYI: Marvel's legal dept. has asked we remove the creator's category to avoid potential conflicts of opinions. They no longer show up in any bios.--MikeFichera 00:36, 27 April 2006 (EDT)

Yeah, I know, but when I catch them in a bio I still edit them out. Oh, and good job on the bio for Harry. I had no idea that he didn't have a page of his own, mucho props --Viper 18:52, 27 April 2006 (EDT)


Dude you did not create Iron Lad. I did. C'mon bro. - IRISH4869 02:00, 8 May 2006 (EDT)

I also created Epoch. C'mon man. BTW I like how you ripped off my profile. - IRISH4869 02:04, 8 May 2006 (EDT)

Sorry, all of the weird deleted contribution stuff confused me. I'll take them off. --Viper 20:54, 8 May 2006 (EDT)

He didn't create the Taskmaster entry either (I did), but lists it in his profile as one of his entries he created. --DragynWulf 14:46, 4 June 2006 (EDT)


I created a category for the MC2 universe. It needs a pic. Take care of it. - IRISH4869 22:26, 8 May 2006 (EDT)

Ok, oh wondrous, mighty, and merciful master, your request is humbly accepted. --Viper 22:46, 8 May 2006 (EDT)

Hey Viper, thanks for doing that buddy. - IRISH4869 02:34, 10 May 2006 (EDT)

image overwrites

Viper...why upload an image and overwrite an existing filename? (as what's happened over and over to the Spidey headshot in my User profile, which I'm about to dump.) Just give it a new filename!--MikeFichera 23:27, 8 May 2006 (EDT)

User talk pages

Viper, in future, can you please not edit my User_talk page without asking first? --ComiX-Fan 04:31, 9 May 2006 (EDT)

I assumed you wouldn't mind, I just removed an unanswered entry with images that I submitted (plus it's no longer relevant) next time I'll ask. --Viper 17:49, 9 May 2006 (EDT)

Credit where credit is due

Human Torch (Ultimate); 21:43 . . liqiudviper (616 Nihil is Anihilus, I created this bio wrote the text, added the image, etc..... Irish makes one minor edit and gets listed as the creator, this system needs to be fixed)

I agree that its galling when someone else takes credit for your work. So, you "wrote the text", did you? What you mean is you COPIED the text from the Ultimate Handbook. Stuart Vandal 18:08, 9 May 2006 (EDT)

That's what I meant. I just didn't want to type, I looked up the text in the Ultimate OHotMU and listed it on the page, in that little text box. --Viper 18:12, 9 May 2006 (EDT)

No, you claimed credit for "creating" something that someone else created. Someone else went to the bother of buying the issues, reading them, taking notes, writing an entry, refining and editing that entry down to a workable size for printing, then a whole group of people went in there and took that person's work apart very critically with the aim of making it better (so the real creator had to watch as others nitpicked and criticised something they'd poured time, energy and love into). You just copied it. "I copied the text from the Ultimate Handbook" isn't much longer than "I created this bio wrote the text", but saying you created it sounded better than saying you transcribed it. Stuart Vandal 18:22, 9 May 2006 (EDT)

Ok, Ok, I get it, geeze. --Viper 18:28, 9 May 2006 (EDT)

On that subject, how do you submitt something to be "nitpicked and criticised" for the OHotMU. --Viper 18:32, 9 May 2006

You don't. Handbook writers are selected by head writer Jeff Christiansen, & I know he's keeping a close watch on the profiles submitted here @ --ComiX-Fan 20:48, 13 May 2006 (EDT)

Not to Harp

I also was the original contributor for the Eon and Photon (Genis-Vell) entries. --IRISH4869 05:42, 11 May 2006 (EDT)

Don't be angry

I changed your comment on that avenger guys page because the mods were gonna yell at you for it. Trying to look out for you man. Stop making it so difficult. - IRISH4869 23:31, 11 May 2006 (EDT)

Sononsj's Pic

Viper, please stop messing with the "I'm with Captain America" picture. There's nothing wrong with it the way I did it, but when you replace the "right" with "left", the picture and the text go to the bottom of the screen. sononsj 11:07, 13 May 2006 (EDT)


I am ten hero points away from a thousand. How close are you??? I wonder what happens when you get there. Probably nothing. Sorry, I just wanted to brag. Race you to two thousand. -- IRISH4869 00:17, 15 May 2006 (EDT)

Ummm....., you where gone for a bit and uhhh......,I kinda have 1561 hero points. Not bragging, I swear. Good job on getting a thousand by the way --Viper 00:23, 15 May 2006 (EDT)

The hunk and senseless edits

Okay, I lied. I'm going to say this a second time. Re: your comments to "The hunk". You are not an editor. If you want to give other users the benefit of your technical experience, helping them learn how to post images, that kind of thing, fine. If you spot a user breaking the rules (e.g. the hunk, captainavenger), its not your job to tell them off, you report them to us or Pete. The hunk didn't do a "senseless edit", he did deliberate vandalism. That needs to be brought to our attention.

And on the topic of "senseless edits", you've just replaced a bunch of perfectly good images (Psylocke for instance) after having been told umpteen times to not do so. One of the reason you have so many hero points is that once you got the ability to post unchecked, alongside the good posts you did, you also made lots of senseless edits too. Stuart Vandal 05:47, 15 May 2006 (EDT)

Longshot Headshot Image

Can you explain why you would edit the Longshot headshot image, making it harder to see his full costume, when you've been asked many times before not to do exactly this sort of thing?--MikeFichera 15:31, 15 May 2006 (EDT)

Spider-Man (Zombie)

Hey, Viper, you didn't create the Spider-Zombie page; I did. sononsj 21:05, 15 May 2006 (EDT)

I created it simultaneously with you, therefor we both created it, and both get credit, and don't remove things from my user page without asking. --Viper 00:05, 16 May 2006 (EDT)

I didn't remove it. sononsj 00:36, 16 May 2006 (EDT)

Sorry, I assumed you did. What was the edit for then? --Viper 23:33, 16 May 2006 (EDT)

I added a period at the end. sononsj 18:25, 17 May 2006 (EDT)

Approval Rights

Hey viper -

I've been getting a lot of complaints from the mods. Please listen to them, especially in regards to replacing images. We've temporarily removed your approval powers. We appreciate your contributions, but please follow the guidance from the moderators. Feel free to message me on my page if you have questions.

--pete 23:39, 18 May 2006 (EDT)

whats wrong with the users pages ?

Hey Viper its Dave , just noticed our user pages have been acting up a little , when i go to mine all i get is the editing form to it and I have to save it again. Wild guess says its happening to you too , I noticed your page was in editing form too. (don't worry I didn't change your profile) david andrews 13:25, 27 May 2006 (EDT)

Out to Lunch

Stop cowering and get back to work. Seriously me and Sausage are getting butchered out here. We need some back-up. -- IRISH4869 20:53, 13 June 2006 (EDT)