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So I think Venom was a real cool character in the new movie, but could have used more of him of him. Also I could use more of him in the Comics themselves. I also don't like the fact they changed from Eddie Brock, but what can you do, the is new times. I liked the comics back in the old days. They were great.
So I think Venom was a real cool character in the new movie, but could have used more of him of him. Also I could use more of him in the Comics themselves. I also don't like the fact they changed from Eddie Brock, but what can you do, the is new times. I liked the comics back in the old days. They were great.
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So i was think about the new venom and i made some new changes
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  universe = [[Marvel Universe]]
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| real_name = MacDonald "Mac" Gargan
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| aliases = formerly: Scorpion
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| identity = Known by legal authorities
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| occupation = Government operative; former professional criminal, private eye
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| citizenship = U.S.A. with criminal record
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| place_of_birth = Yonkers, New York
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| relatives = Unrevealed
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| groups =  [[Avengers]]; formerly [[Thunderbolts]], (as Scorpion) [[Masters of Evil]], "Spider-Man Revenge League"; (as Venom) [[Sinister Twelve]]
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| education = High school graduate
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| height = 6'4" ;(Venom)6'11 1/2"-7' 6"
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| weight = 278 lbs ;(venom)685 lbs-789 lbs
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| eyes = Brown (venom) white
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| hair = Brown, usually shaved (Venom) bald
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| powers = As Scorpion: enhanced strength, enabling him to lift (press) about 15 tons, speed, endurance and agility (greater than Spider-Man's). As Venom: the symbiote further enhances Gargan's superhuman attributes including his agility and strength (enabling him to lift 40 tons optimally), and granting him the ability to cling to almost any surface, block Spider-Man's spider-sense, and enable him to blend in with the background. The symbiote can also produce organic webs which he can use for web-slinging from building to building or capturing opponents.
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| abilities = Mac Gargan has the intellectual skills of an average detective, though he is mentally unstable.
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| weapons = As Scorpion: The tail on his Scorpion costume could be used as a weapon. It has had axe-like additions on it, and originally it could simply be used to crush solid objects. As Venom, he has been able to mimic the shape of his old costume's tail.
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| paraphernalia = As Scorpion: Mac Gargan wore a costume that was made of a steel mesh and rubber, granting him excellent protection from attack, and a cybernetic tail which possessed various weaponry that changed and upgraded periodically. The tail could be used as a spring or crushing tool. 
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| debut = (As Gargan) Amazing Spider-Man #19 (1964); (as Scorpion) Amazing Spider-Man #20 (1965); (as Venom) Marvel Knights: Spider-Man #10 (2005)
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| origin = (As Scorpion) Amazing Spider-Man #20 (1965); (As Venom) Marvel Knights: Spider-Man #8 & 10 (2005)
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| significant_issues = Confronted by Venom symbiote (Marvel Knights: Spider-Man #9, 2005); bonded with Symbiote, joined Sinister Twelve, vs Spider-Man (Marvel Knights: Spider-Man #10-11, 2005); jailed (Marvel Knights: Spider-Man #12, 2005); alongside Spider-Man & others, sent to Battleworld, seemingly killed Spider-Man (Beyond! #1, 2006); on Battleworld, attempted to kill others for "Beyonder's" wish fulfillment, returned to Earth (Beyond! #2-6, 2006); agreed to register with government under Superhuman Registration Act (Civil War: Choosing Sides, 2006); revealed to be outfitted with electrical implants by government to keep in check (Heroes for Hire #2, 2006); Fought Jack Flag (Thunderbolts #111, 2007)
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main_image=Venom(MacGargan)_Head.jpg
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One of Spider-Man's oldest enemies, MacGargan has recently abandoned his Scorpion suit and identity bonding with the alien symbiote that had previously been hosted by Peter Parker and Eddie Brock. He now goes by the infamous name, Venom.
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==SCORPION==
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Former private investigator Mac Gargan was hired by [[Jameson, J. Jonah|J. Jonah Jameson]] to find out how Peter Parker is able to get incredible pictures of [[Spider-Man (Peter Parker)|Spider-Man]]. Gargan's efforts to locate Peter in order to find out the truth triggered Parkers's spider sense, making him easily avoidable.
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Frustrated, Jameson decided to pay $10,000 to Gargan as the subject of an experiment.  An experiment created by [[Stillwell, Farley|Dr. Farley Stillwell]], a researcher in animal mutation which endowed the subject with the characteristic of another animal. Unfortunately the process resulted in the loss of Gargan's sanity, and the creation of the super-powered criminal menace known as the Scorpion.
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Over the years Scorpion fought and was bested by Spider-Man many times. Most of these confrontations were the result of Spider-Man stepping in on an attempt on the life of Jameson, who Gargan hated even more than Spider-Man. With his mechanical tail, speed, and strength, Scorpion has always been more than a match for Spider-Man. Only the skill, experience, and quick wit of the web head helped him defeat Gargan.
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Later on, Scorpion was recruited by [[Green Goblin (Norman Osborn)|Norman Osborn]], informed of Spider-man's real identity, and ordered to kidnap Peter's [[Parker, May (Aunt May)|Aunt May]] if anything should happen to Osborn. In the middle of his task Scorpion was approached by the recently freed symbiote. Risking Osborn's wrath, Gargan chose the symbiote over Osborn's mission, since the symbiote's potential for power was far greater than any newly designed Scorpion suit could ever be. Thus transforming Scorpion into the even more monstrous Venom.
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==VENOM==
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Dying of cancer, [[Brock, Eddie|Eddie Brock]] decided to auction for charity to the highest bidder the alien symbiote from which he derives his powers as Venom.
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After being purchased by New York mobster [[Fortunato, Don|Don Fortunato]] to be used by his son [[Fortunato, Angelo|Angelo]], thinking him weak, the alien symbiote abandoned its new host leaving him to fall to his death after a short and murderous career.
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It then sought out a new host that shared both its hatred of Spider-Man as well as the will and experience of a seasoned criminal. Mac Gargan returning to his apartment after a recent kidnapping of Aunt May and intimidation of Spider-Man, only to find the symbiote which made Gargan a proposition to be its newest host. The one-time Scorpion eagerly accepted the offer, and was thus transformed into the monstrous Venom.
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After an elaborate plan paid off and the Green Goblin was out of prison, the Goblin led Spider-Man and the [[Black Cat]] into a direct confrontation with the newly formed [[Sinister Twelve]], which included the new, more powerful Venom among its ranks.
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Venom and the Twelve very nearly defeated Spider-Man before the [[Fantastic Four]] and a small faction of the [[Avengers]] headed by [[Captain America (Steve Rogers)|Captain America]] joined in, leading to the eventual defeat of the Twelve.
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In the midst of the battle Osborn escaped, with the full intention to murder Peter's wife, [[Watson-Parker, Mary Jane|Mary Jane]]. Spider-Man soon followed only to be stopped by Venom. The two foes continued to battle high above on New York's rooftops. After catching Gargan off balance Spider-Man dropped a condemned building on the new Venom, ending the battle. Venom was arrested and sent to [[Ryker's Island|Ryker]]'s. He promised Spider-Man he would never reveal his identity, as that was his only leverage against him.
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More recently, Gargan has escaped prison. He journeyed to [[Battleworld]], along with a ragtag group of characters including the likes of [[Yellowjacket (Henry Pym)|Henry Pym]], [[Gravity]], the [[Hood]], and others, in order to enter a contest arranged by the [[Stranger]] posing as the [[Maker|Beyonder]]. Shortly thereafter, Venom was approached by a joint [[Commission on Superhuman Activities|CSA]] / [[S.H.I.E.L.D.]] taskforce, and joined the new [[Thunderbolts]] team which was formed during the [[Civil War]] to stop unregistered heroes.
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Revision as of 19:34, 7 February 2009

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Angelo or Mac ?

Hi guys great work on this bio but isn't the Venom in the bio picture from marvel knights spider-man # 8 of Fortunato and not Gargan as Gargan didn't possess the symbyote till the end of # 9 ? david andrews 22:34, 20 April 2006 (EDT)

Yea it is, nice job noticing. -- Viper 23:05, 20 April 2006 (EDT)

No prob, its just one of my favorite story arcs , thats how I know just so you know I'm not just having a rant about it. david andrews 23:21, 20 April 2006 (EDT)

Wow nice picture , Can I ask where its taken from ?

It's from an upcoming cover to Beyond!, issue #2, by Scott Kolins.--MikeFichera 21:24, 31 May 2006 (EDT)

I still like Eddie as Venom!-Shadows Venom

I agree. I still like Eddie as Venom. To me, you cant have Venom without Eddie. Its just not the same charactor. I really dont like the fact that they got Mac as the new Venom. I think if they're going to basicly kill off Eddie, then they should kill the Venom charactor period. Venom is by far my favorite Marvel charactor ever, but what they are doing with him now is just plain stupid. I love Eddie just as much as I love the symbiote, and it really makes me angry how they are mistreating such a beloved charactor. Basicly, to me, and I'm sure to alot of other fans, the symbiote without Eddie is NOT Venom. And I hope they fix this, and make Eddie and the symbiote Venom once more.-hilldalekid

I also agree Venom IS Eddie Brock + symbiote. And I agree they should rebond Eddie and the Symbiote once more.

Where's the tail?

I know that the symbiote is at this time attached to Gargan, however when the symbiot bonded, what happened to the Scorpion's Costume. Didn't he have problems to where the suit couldn't come off, thus wouldn't he still have the tail?--Venomocity 13:23, 26 July 2006 (EDT)

Well I'm not sure if he still wears it but the symbiote is seen to mimic the tail. Best seen in Beyong #1 where he seemed to kill Spider-Man with it. --Wezqu 16:46, 26 July 2006 (EDT)

The tail of Mac Gargan did appear in the Beyond! mini-series. --Black Panther#1 8:40, 17 March 2007 (EDT)

Venom in General

So I think Venom was a real cool character in the new movie, but could have used more of him of him. Also I could use more of him in the Comics themselves. I also don't like the fact they changed from Eddie Brock, but what can you do, the is new times. I liked the comics back in the old days. They were great.


So i was think about the new venom and i made some new changes


 

Universe
Marvel Universe

Real Name
MacDonald "Mac" Gargan

Aliases
formerly: Scorpion

Identity
Known by legal authorities

Citizenship
U.S.A. with criminal record

Place of Birth
Yonkers, New York

First Appearance
(As Gargan) Amazing Spider-Man #19 (1964); (as Scorpion) Amazing Spider-Man #20 (1965); (as Venom) Marvel Knights: Spider-Man #10 (2005)

Origin
(As Scorpion) Amazing Spider-Man #20 (1965); (As Venom) Marvel Knights: Spider-Man #8 & 10 (2005)

One of Spider-Man's oldest enemies, MacGargan has recently abandoned his Scorpion suit and identity bonding with the alien symbiote that had previously been hosted by Peter Parker and Eddie Brock. He now goes by the infamous name, Venom.

SCORPION

Former private investigator Mac Gargan was hired by J. Jonah Jameson to find out how Peter Parker is able to get incredible pictures of Spider-Man. Gargan's efforts to locate Peter in order to find out the truth triggered Parkers's spider sense, making him easily avoidable.

Frustrated, Jameson decided to pay $10,000 to Gargan as the subject of an experiment. An experiment created by Dr. Farley Stillwell, a researcher in animal mutation which endowed the subject with the characteristic of another animal. Unfortunately the process resulted in the loss of Gargan's sanity, and the creation of the super-powered criminal menace known as the Scorpion.

Over the years Scorpion fought and was bested by Spider-Man many times. Most of these confrontations were the result of Spider-Man stepping in on an attempt on the life of Jameson, who Gargan hated even more than Spider-Man. With his mechanical tail, speed, and strength, Scorpion has always been more than a match for Spider-Man. Only the skill, experience, and quick wit of the web head helped him defeat Gargan.

Later on, Scorpion was recruited by Norman Osborn, informed of Spider-man's real identity, and ordered to kidnap Peter's Aunt May if anything should happen to Osborn. In the middle of his task Scorpion was approached by the recently freed symbiote. Risking Osborn's wrath, Gargan chose the symbiote over Osborn's mission, since the symbiote's potential for power was far greater than any newly designed Scorpion suit could ever be. Thus transforming Scorpion into the even more monstrous Venom.

VENOM

Dying of cancer, Eddie Brock decided to auction for charity to the highest bidder the alien symbiote from which he derives his powers as Venom.

After being purchased by New York mobster Don Fortunato to be used by his son Angelo, thinking him weak, the alien symbiote abandoned its new host leaving him to fall to his death after a short and murderous career.

It then sought out a new host that shared both its hatred of Spider-Man as well as the will and experience of a seasoned criminal. Mac Gargan returning to his apartment after a recent kidnapping of Aunt May and intimidation of Spider-Man, only to find the symbiote which made Gargan a proposition to be its newest host. The one-time Scorpion eagerly accepted the offer, and was thus transformed into the monstrous Venom.

After an elaborate plan paid off and the Green Goblin was out of prison, the Goblin led Spider-Man and the Black Cat into a direct confrontation with the newly formed Sinister Twelve, which included the new, more powerful Venom among its ranks.

Venom and the Twelve very nearly defeated Spider-Man before the Fantastic Four and a small faction of the Avengers headed by Captain America joined in, leading to the eventual defeat of the Twelve.

In the midst of the battle Osborn escaped, with the full intention to murder Peter's wife, Mary Jane. Spider-Man soon followed only to be stopped by Venom. The two foes continued to battle high above on New York's rooftops. After catching Gargan off balance Spider-Man dropped a condemned building on the new Venom, ending the battle. Venom was arrested and sent to Ryker's. He promised Spider-Man he would never reveal his identity, as that was his only leverage against him.

More recently, Gargan has escaped prison. He journeyed to Battleworld, along with a ragtag group of characters including the likes of Henry Pym, Gravity, the Hood, and others, in order to enter a contest arranged by the Stranger posing as the Beyonder. Shortly thereafter, Venom was approached by a joint CSA / S.H.I.E.L.D. taskforce, and joined the new Thunderbolts team which was formed during the Civil War to stop unregistered heroes.