I had a pile of contributions/changes that were approved/not approved, but today they suddenly all disappeared. What does that mean?
It means they changed the system, I'd imagine... PseudoSherlock 16:38, 5 June 2006 (EDT)
i just wanted to know scince you have auto approving and aeverything do you just create an article and it shows automatically cause i wanted tp know if i had it and how to use Xtreme112
Once you reach the given amount of Hero Points needed to approve your own profiles (you need to make sure there is correct information and spellchecked on the profile before approving it). Go to the Recent Changes at the bottom of a page. If you see the words "this revision" in red, that mean you have reached the correct number needed to approve your profiles. Once you create a profile and after you post it, you have to go to the Recent Changes page and approve your own profile. It is there for you to do your own and not to approve other's profiles/posts.
As for the Contributions list, it looks like after you reach a certain amount of profiles/edits/posts, your contribution list vanishes. It did it with mine and others who have high numbers. --DragynWulf 00:23, 16 June 2006 (EDT)
ok i get ya but i dont see that revision thing for bios i meen my contribution list is gone and i only see the rev thing with pictures so does that meen im not there yet
Umm, thank you, Xtreme. But yeah, looks like the question is already answered. And thank you for the heads up on the contributions, Dragyn. It was a little frustrating, and it makes me wonder why the option is there in the first place. I actually enjoyed using it to start out with. PseudoSherlock 06:32, 19 June 2006 (EDT)
Xtreme112: From what you are saying, I would guess that you have not reached the needed amount of Hero Points to approve your own profiles/posts/edits. Just remember that the easiest way to find out is to check the Recent Changes page (which is located at the bottom of every page) and once you see the words/text "(this revision)" highlighted in red, then that means you have reached the need amount of Hero Points.
PseudoSherlock: We suggest that you keep a record of all profiles you create in case something happens to them. This way you can post the information if needed again. Some posters have used their UserPage to list all the profiles they have created to show their contributions. This way even though the current bug in the system erases your name, there is still something showing that you contributed to the profile. --DragynWulf 14:54, 19 June 2006 (EDT)
Yeah, Dragyn's probably right, Xtreme. It's pretty obvious when you're able, the "This Revision" thing is highlighted in a BRIGHT red. Can't miss it. And don't worry, Dragyn, I save all my profiles in MSWord. I'm also planning on revising my own profile soon to show the ones that I've created or heavily edited. I just haven't quite gotten around to it. Maybe I will today... PseudoSherlock 15:01, 19 June 2006 (EDT)
Oh ok i didn't know anyone noticed , maybe they'll change it this time. david andrews 13:18, 6 July 2006 (EDT)
Yeah, who knows? You can find the other posts on either Pete's or ComiX Fan's user pages. It would be nice if they fixed it, though. I actually misspelled villains because I was looking at that link before... PseudoSherlock 14:33, 6 July 2006 (EDT)
Yeah thats what i did adding to the category and checked my spelling of that. then i noticed it didn't work and i got suspicious. david andrews 15:29, 6 July 2006 (EDT)
Hey PseudoSherlock, when creating a profile for a character from the 2099 universe, make sure you add that to the name like Spider-Man (2099), X-Men (2099) and so on. The links you make in the history reflect the universe, so should the character you are writing the bio for. The same goes for characters from Exiles like Blink (Exiles), Ulimate Marvel like Spider-Man (Ultimate) and so on. --DragynWulf 20:24, 12 July 2006 (EDT)
Sigh...fine. The reason I originally formatted them as I did, is because I only added (2099) when there was no other character of the same name. Which I took from the format of the Ultimate characters. However, I see now that ALL the Ultimate characters, even "Ultimates (Ultimate)" have it...so, alright, I'll go through and fix it all to read (2099)... PseudoSherlock 07:39, 13 July 2006 (EDT)
Any alternate reality character should reflect their own universe no matter if there isn't a version of them in the Marvel 616 Universe. It is a way to distinguish what universe they come from. While it is obvious to know that they come from the 2099 Universe if you look in the 2099 category, all those characters are also listed in the People category (or Teams for the teams) and that is where the designation for the universe comes in handy. This way someone going through the large list of characters in the People category, can see who and where they are from.
I believe I already edited them to reflect the 2099 universe, so no worries about that. I was letting you know so you would do it for future characters. --DragynWulf 13:18, 13 July 2006 (EDT)
You seem to know about those 2099 characters. So to the point. There is two Punisher characters on Punisher disambiguation page that are 2099 characters. The reason why I'm pointing this out is, because I was about to delete them from the page, because I dont see any mentioning about them being in Earth-616. Like I was earlier told from a moderator disambiguation pages are only for characters that is native of Earth-616 universe, another universe character that lives Earth-616 universe or is frequent visitor on Earth-616 universe. So if they werent in Earth-616 universe in any point in time they shouldn't be listed in the disambiguation page. If they dont match to any of those mentioned above they shouldnt be there and it would be nice that they would be deleted from the disambiguation page. --Wezqu 11:36, 13 July 2006 (EDT)
I agree. There are actually three 2099 Punishers on the page. I didn't put them there. I've edited them since, to make sure they're correct, but I didn't agree with their original addition to it. And I've since thought that if they are there, why isn't Spider-Man 2099 on a disambig page, too, and the series of Doctor Doom's in a disambig page? So if you want to take them off, you won't hear any arguments from me. PseudoSherlock 12:29, 13 July 2006 (EDT)
It was discussed further and the Mods decided that category pages are for Marvel 616 Universe and the disambig pages are now for all versions of the characters. The main characters are to be listed first, followed by imposters and then last but not least all alternate reality characters. Each section will have its own discription, I will edit a page for others to use as an example later tonight or tomorrow. --DragynWulf 13:18, 13 July 2006 (EDT)
That makes some good sense. I'll try to cobble together the ones that fit the characters I've done once I've seen the example. Thanks for the heads up! PseudoSherlock 13:53, 13 July 2006 (EDT)
Just wanted to ask why did you name them Daredevil, Spider-Man, Fantastic Four and Doctor Doom? Just asking this because they didn't never use those aliases so why you list them under those. Only one of the characters that used same alias than his Earth-616 counterpart was Thor. Everybody else was only refered with their real names. Also Doctor Doom in this Earth isn't a doctor hes a count. Also these characters shouldn't be mentioned in these aliases disambiguation pages because they never used the alias in the first place. --Wezqu 14:58, 15 August 2006 (EDT)
I did this because the characters in the 1602 are supposedly the same persona as the ones from the modern 616 reality that the universe rebirthed at an earlier time in order to patch itself up. So, technically, they are the same people who were born in an earlier period. I'm sure some moderator will come around and completely rename all of them, but I thought it would just get awkward to keep calling them by either made up codenames (as in the Fantastick Four, which was never mentioned in the series either, but is the title of their upcoming series), or "real names." Because, as they are based off of specific people with specific names, it made it easier to just name them from their originals. Also, please note that the Spider-Man 1602 I just did was actually previously written into the Spider-Man disambig page as Spider-Man (Earth-311), but as the 2099 characters got (2099) put at the end of their names, I changed it to Spider-Man (1602), however someone ELSE also wrote him in as "Spider-Man," not "Peter Parquagh". It makes things more tidy, as they will probably all change their names later, anyway, once the series gets going. And I put them in the disambig pages for the same reason, they are the same identities and personas as the originals, replaced into a different time. PseudoSherlock 15:08, 15 August 2006 (EDT)
Umm...I just looked it up, YOU'RE the one who renamed Spider-Man to 311, for some odd reason. So you already, implicitly, agreed to name them to their modern day monikers (as Peter never uses the name Spider-Man in the book), as well as leaving them in the disambig pages. However, renaming him to Spider-Man (Earth-311) looks ungainly and overly categorical, all the other ones are named by the colloquial title of the universe, not the number. Unless you want to start writing in Fantastic Four (616), and other such nonsense... PseudoSherlock 15:11, 15 August 2006 (EDT)
I removed it because I now know that he didn't use it. I didn't add him. Also if you dont know every universe dont have a tittle they just have a number or would you prefer name as like "Peter Parker Had to Destroy Spider-Man" its not practical when the name is long as hell. Its easier to write them as Earth desicnations. That was the one reason why those numbers have been invented so you dont have to write every long and sometimes even stupid name to the names. Also there is several universes that doesnt even have a name just a number. I dont see any point naming the characters with names they never used just so some idiot knows what character he is modelled after from Earth-616. --Wezqu 15:24, 15 August 2006 (EDT)
Also even if they are same personalities they never used those alliases and why would they be listed with them, but I will let admins to shought this one out. Also this Peter Parquagh you could have listed as "Parquagh, Peter (1602)" and it would have been allright now it isn't. Its just more work for a moderator to do when there is idiots who post **** on the site and they could rather to use that time to clean it up than transfering pages. I'm not trying to start a fight here just saying that they shouldn't be listed in those aliases. --Wezqu 15:31, 15 August 2006 (EDT)
Well, obviously, if a Universe doesn't have a colloquial name, don't use one. As Marvel 1602 does, I used it. And as the majority of the junk the moderators have to clean up is a lot of people posting gibberish in un-templated profiles, I doubt they'll care if I can't read their minds and choose the proper titles for my completely written and researched bios. :) I've learned that they all have their own opinions on how to categorize stuff, and as I have the most fun researching Marvel comics and writing what I know, I'll let them re-title my stuff to their heart's content. I can't always predict what it will be, and so I've stopped trying. So you can continue to spend your time picking apart all my stuff, and I'm certainly not going to change anything back as long as you keep my profiles intact. So, as you say, we'll leave it to them, who will undoubtedly be happy to take time out from absolute nonsense to tidy up a set of complete bios. Note: I've also edited out your profanity from my page, as this is a family site... PseudoSherlock 15:47, 15 August 2006 (EDT)
Regarding your Spider-Man 1602 profile, it was no problem. If only a history could be done.User: The Last Samurai
I'm going to try and pick up some of the 1602 comics when I see them, or whatever is out yet. And then I'll fill in stuff. PseudoSherlock 08:23, 19 August 2006 (EDT)
If a character does not go by a name, then don't give them that name. Therefore, if a character never used "Spider-Man" as a name, then don't call him "Spider-Man". Use the correct names that they were given in comics even if it is a real name and not a code-name.
If a universe does not have a designated Earth number, then don't use names to replace that number.
Also, please do not post material intentionally for the Moderators to clean up. You have been given the ability to approve your own posts so that we WON'T have to clean up your profiles. --DragynWulf 13:02, 23 August 2006 (EDT)
You misunderstood. My point was that I had given up guessing how the moderators want me to structure the names, and if you'll notice, there are TONS of posts from me asking moderators. Usually, they ignore me, and then it eventually gets changed later. So I stopped guessing, and just wrote bios to add to the system.
I'm thoroughly confused about your choice to add the Earth designation. Are you implying that we should change all the (Ultimate)s to (Earth-1610), and the (2099)s to (Earth-928)? If not, what makes Marvel 1602 special that it doesn't get its colloquial title like the others? As for the changes you did make, Doctor Strange DOES go by the name Doctor Strange, or Doctor Stephen Strange, and Nick Fury is actually Nicholas Fury by your own naming scheme. And the "Fantastick Four" have never been referred to as such in a comic, yet. At best you could refer to them as the "Four from the Fantastick." Though when their own comic comes out, it'll be more clear, undoubtedly. PseudoSherlock 17:16, 23 August 2006 (EDT)
You are noy being ignored, the Moderators can get very busy at times with Handbook work (writing, proofing, research, deadlines), thier normal 9-5 type job (which is different than the Handbook job), family and everyday normal life stuff, checking profiles over for the weekly Marvel newsletter, checking/writing profiles for Marvel.com and other things. So as you can see Mods can get busy real fast and numerous posts that show up on the "Recent Changes" can push Usertalk down. I just found out that someone posted in my Userpage 3 days ago and I didn't even see it and I check often. It was just over looked is all.
If an Earth designation is known it should be used. If text to clarify that reality is needed then it can be added. So for example Captain America (Earth-1610 (Ultimate)) should be listed for the Ultimate version of Captain America. Spider-Man (Earth-928 circa 2099 AD), Parquagh, Peter (Earth-311, circa 1602 AD) and so on.
While yes, this is a change for what has been previously posted, things have changed within the comics and an updated system is needed. Especially now that there are multiple versions of Spider-Man 2099, Age of Apocalypse, Days of Future Past, and other characters/realities. --DragynWulf 20:34, 23 August 2006 (EDT)
Ok, that all sounds good to me. And, honestly, Dragyn, this mainly serves to prove my point. I couldn't have even begun to guess all those formatting things you would prefer, no matter how much guessing I put into it. Which is why I've gotten to the point where I no longer worry about formatting, unless it's really obvious. I'd be most happy just reading comics and honing my writing skills on the bios-the two things I truly enjoy-and leaving all the pesky formatting issues to the moderators. Which is what I meant earlier. And if you had just renamed all those characters and said nothing to me, I would have been just fine. I would very much just like to stay out of all of it, because I'm not a moderator, and I frankly don't want to have an opinion on any of it. And I'm not angry at anyone for not getting back to me, and I'm not purposefully trying to make work for anyone else, I've just decided to continue to type up bios and give my best, off-the-top-of-my-head guess for how to name them, and let any moderator with a different opinion change it. I hope that's okay with everyone, as I'd prefer to just quietly pump out characters, and I'd like to think that after over a hundred created bios, I'm not wasting anyone's time on here. PseudoSherlock 08:04, 24 August 2006 (EDT)
What's a "tittle"? sononsj 19:15, 25 August 2006 (EDT)
Please don't edit other people's Userpages. That is for them to post on and no one else. If something needs to be removed, a Moderator will do it. If you notice something needs to be removed (category for example) from a Userpage, then please point it out to a Moderator and we will remove it. While your intentions were good, if other posters see you do it, they will assume that they can do it also and it will become a greater mess than what it already has become. --DragynWulf 13:09, 23 August 2006 (EDT)
Alright. They'd had been sitting there for months, which is why I finally removed them. But I won't do it again. PseudoSherlock 17:08, 23 August 2006 (EDT)
Sherlock, please don't upload images in GIF format (like Prester John). The preferred format for online images is JPG. --ComiX-Fan 20:24, 2 March 2007 (EST)
OH, alright. THAT was the problem. I couldn't figure it out. Thank you, I will reupload that as a .gif. Sorry about the mistake. PseudoSherlock 10:16, 6 March 2007 (EST)