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norbertomorvan
norbertomorvan plus member

Hickman has created a dense far reaching narrative.  You get thrown into the deep end with the Alephs and the new alphabet and whatnot, and you are rewarded by re-reading to check up on little bits you may have missed.  After reading the manhattan projects I heard about his trip to marvel....his stuff on FF was the most interesting in decades (though Waid had a bit of a good run).  The way that this book runs parallel/perpendicular to New Avengers is epic.  He made Dr. Strange, Namor, and Tchalla more interesting, way more interesting than they have been in forever.....but I still have no idea what the point of Infinity was though.  


Bring on the Secret Wars.  Can't wait to see how all of this planet smashing S*it ends

RabSheila
RabSheila

SPOILER-------------


Regarding Namor's "defeat" by the Black Panther:


"I want him to know...It was me." - Black Panther


Yeah.  Right.  Black Panther should have said "I want him to know...I couldn't beat him by myself.  I needed Black Bolt to actually do all the heavy lifting.  All I'm good for is breaking my daddy's old knife."

Matt_6
Matt_6

Spoiler--



"So end The Cabal"


Cant be. Weak if Hickmans done with them. Give them their own title or something.



larrysick
larrysick

I freakin love this series. The writing and art really propel this book. I am coming up to infinity and I'm really look forward to how Hickman puts all this together. Though I have heard there was some disappointment to this event if not the series so far, I think being an optimistic fan of comics with some knowledge of marvel has given an opportunity to really to enjoy this series and see what a Marvel series can offer. 

ujustgotpwnd1337
ujustgotpwnd1337

Anyone know why issues #36 & 38 are missing on here, yet all the other future ones are listed? I was wondering this and also with Iron Man jumping from #28 - 34 as well. Anyone have any ideas as to that? I'm farily new to Marvel's comics and was wondering if you guys could help me out.

ddavfan
ddavfan member

Wow.  This Revolution thingee is a peach.  Hickman is making the Avengers as wordy and SUCKY as Fraction is making the FF wordy and sucky.  No wonder so many of the titles rebooted after 12-15 issues of Revolution suckdom.  Yawn....

rj155500
rj155500 member

I don't know if anybody ever posts on these pages, but I would just like to say that if Hank Pym doesn't get credit for creating Ultron in the next Avengers movie . . . . I'm not going to pay to see it in theatres. 

Matt_6
Matt_6

@norbertomorvan  I gotta say after reading New Avengers and Avengers from the beginning im really not interested in the secret wars. The Ultimate universe stinks, and I really don't care about any of the other characters in the marvel universe outside those featured in both these great titles Hickman has written. I don't know, guess Ill have to wait and see and hope im pleasantly surprised. Would like to see the return of Thanos and his cabal as that was disappointing.

Mimas2
Mimas2

@ddavfan Amen my friend.... These stupid-assed restarts are for one thing and one thing only... SELL ... more people by number 1's than anything else.... they should call all issues number one... and avoid the confusion... lol

HudsonHouse
HudsonHouse member

@ddavfan new Avengers inst really a high octane book so I think Hickman is compensating for the lack of action by adding "literary intensity". Avengers is the book people new to comics and Avengers in general will probably buy in new Avengers he has the freedom to create his own playground. So I like the "wordy-ness" of New Avengers. If comics were food I would say this book dds a flavor to my palette that I don't want to leave anytime soon, but comics don't equal food so......... 

Berserk1300
Berserk1300

@rj155500  Tony is creating ulrton,  but my take is that its time travel as in ultron tricks tony to create him............  being said in Ant-man movie Hank Prym is old as freking hell AKA Micheale Dougless,  so we will see


janecat13
janecat13 member

@rj155500  Well since Hank Pym hasn't been introduced yet, it will be Tony's creation, but Im hearing from the stars the script is excellent, and is a much more quite film than Avengers, kind of like Winter Soldier was, in that there was more depth, so I hope you still see it :D

norbertomorvan
norbertomorvan plus member

@Matt_6 @norbertomorvan the books in the ultimate universe that i've read: ultimate spider-man v1 & v2, fantastic four, and the ultimates were interesting takes on the older characters.  venom was insane cancer, the green goblin was a giant hulk, reed and sue were equally intelligent, the first story about the Hulk in the ultimates, just trying to get laid....etc....they were interesting reads.  the cataclysm crossover i didn't like.  i thought that ultimatium was nuts though.  wiping out manhattan and other places with a crazy tidal wave....and the way that reed richards eventually became a bad guy due to, what, "i am so smart!  s-m-r-t!!!" loved that.  i have been reading them through the unlimited service, a bit at a time.  i've never been the greatest bagely fan in terms of the art, but he did some great work with spider man in the ultimate universe.  the other 1618 universe stuff...what else was there?  x-men?  since most of the characters died in the tow big kill offs, there aren't many left anyways.  is this all to bring miles, galactus and the other thor back to the 616....and maybe the more drunken party version of stark?


i'm usually not super critical of the stories admittedly.  this is my last childhood thing i can just get into that allows me to turn off my brain and relax.  i'm all for the nuttier the better.  i'm an old head still trying to give secret wars 2 a chance for chissakes....(I still don't get it)...because how can you REALLY hate an omnipotent guy with a jheri curl?


rcarmona43
rcarmona43

@Berserk1300 @rj155500 I think the best theory I've heard, and the one I think that will apply given the emphasis on the time continuum (possibly to introduce the Time gem), is that Howard Stark and Hank Pym develop the Ultron program some time in the past. Tony will only update the program and kickstart it; he'll also put a little of himself into the program, and this is precisely why it backfires. Antman comes out a couple of months after Age of Ultron; there'll definitely be a connection.

norbertomorvan
norbertomorvan plus member

@HudsonHouse @norbertomorvan @Matt_6 the act of buying comics for pure escapist enjoyment.  the stories have become more 'mature', but most marvel stuff still seems pretty tame compared to what the indies are doing.